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To all the Johnny Jones haters..
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:39 pm
Reading the article on his lack of coaching ability, you have to really wonder just how stupid a writer can be. Even if Johnny Jones is one of the worst tacticians of all time, we went out and got an assistant who is known to be a very tactical guy.
The best coaches are the ones who see their weaknesses and adjust. Has he not done that? And has he not consistantly made this team better over 3 years?
The best coaches are the ones who see their weaknesses and adjust. Has he not done that? And has he not consistantly made this team better over 3 years?
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:43 pm to tigerclaw10
Pointing out obvious weaknesses does not make a poster a "hater".
Your own post seems to agree with the common assessment, and I trust you do not consider yourself to be in that category.
Your own post seems to agree with the common assessment, and I trust you do not consider yourself to be in that category.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:48 pm to nitwit
The pumpers are so sensitive to legitimate criticism. They act like its freaking treason.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:49 pm to tigerclaw10
quote:
Reading the article on his lack of coaching ability, you have to really wonder just how stupid a writer can be. Even if Johnny Jones is one of the worst tacticians of all time, we went out and got an assistant who is known to be a very tactical guy.
The best coaches are the ones who see their weaknesses and adjust. Has he not done that? And has he not consistantly made this team better over 3 years?
CJJ is a terrible coach. I hope he hands the clipboard to his assistant if he is indeed a "very tactical guy."
No, the team has not gotten better over the last three years.
If CJJ was a great coach, he would have pulled Jordan Mickey who is a good player but turned into a complete basket case after missing five straight free throws, two field goals (including a lay-up) and he gave up the game-winning shot. He should have pulled him after the fifth missed free throw. Demons were in that poor kids head. Even the announcers could see it. Not CJJ, of course.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:52 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:I don't think...
The pumpers are so sensitive to legitimate criticism.
quote:
Perhaps Mickey and Martin said ‘to hell with this' and decided they could improve their game at a faster pace under the watchful eyes of a more...um....respected basketball coach.
Is legit criticism.
Especially coming from the LinkedIn credentials of:
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:53 pm to El Campo Tiger
quote:
No, the team has not gotten better over the last three years.
I don't have a problem with someone saying that we should have been better with our talent( I personally believe this), but this statement is idiotic.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:59 pm to lsutigers1992
I have no problem with criticism, but Johnny Jones has made this team consistently better. I'll be the first to complain when we begin to decline.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:59 pm to El Campo Tiger
quote:Well, this is just as stupid as the above mentioned blogger.
No, the team has not gotten better over the last three years.
LSU has improved every year under CJJ - in overall record, conference record, in postseason bids, in recruiting. It's ridiculous to say the team hasn't gotten better.
The 3 seasons prior to CJJ LSU was:
11-20 (2-14)
11-21 (3-13)
18-15 (7-9) (NIT)
LSU has since gone:
19-12 (9-9)
20-14 (9-9) (NIT)
22-11 (11-7) (NCAA)
I don't understand how LSU fans thought Coack K was hired at LSU.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:03 pm to drizztiger
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drizztiger
If you want to compare the 2012 NIT finish with the 2015 NCAA First Round choke job and tell me LSU is light years better with CJJ, the answer to that is an emphatic HELL NO.
Slightly better...okay fine. Not much, though.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:05 pm to drizztiger
It's truly mystifying. I was as frustrated as anyone with some of our losses and some of Jones' in game decisions throughout the year, but we finished almost exactly where I and countless others expected. It's funny how people say we were loaded with talent and then laugh at the notion of Mickey and Martin going pro. And if you aren't excited about the obvious direction of the program you either aren't paying attention or you are completely miserable.
All of that aside, people seem to be losing sight of just how idiotic that blogger's assertion truly was.
All of that aside, people seem to be losing sight of just how idiotic that blogger's assertion truly was.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:07 pm to tigerclaw10
quote:
has he not consist[e]ntly made this team better over 3 years?
Through recruiting, yes. There is no difference other than we now have much better bodies on the floor. It's better than nothing, but no reasonable person would gauge his in-game coaching as acceptable.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:12 pm to tigerclaw10
LOL at people who can't acknowledge that the basketball program is in WAYYYYY better shape than when Jones took over. He may not be the best x's and o's guy, but there's a lot more to running a successful basketball program than just being an x's and o's guy.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:15 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
The haters are so sensitive to legitimate criticism. They act like its freaking treason.
FIFY
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:19 pm to El Campo Tiger
Holy shite you are a dumb arse..lol
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:21 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
The pumpers are so sensitive to legitimate criticism. They act like its freaking treason.
that's such a croc. Most understand constructive criticism, but an absurd amount of posters on here think Jones is a a slight notch above a biddy ball coach.
the false sense of entitlement of thinking LSU is above Jones' first three seasons (the winningest in school history) is even more astounding.
I go over to the SEC Rant and see Carolina fans fapping their brains out over Frank Martin finally getting a winning season in YEAR 3. Seeing Arkansas fans be satisfied over Anderson getting Arkansas to the NIT in year three also puts things into perspective.
Finally, the misconception that LSU was so loaded team last year is so bizarre. At times you'd think LSU was the '96 Bulls but Jones screwed it up. It's like no one watches college basketball not on the SECN
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:27 pm to tigerclaw10
College spots are 90% recruiting 10% coaching. You can win a NC with excellent talent and average coaching but it is extremely difficult to win a NC with average talent and excellent coaching.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:45 pm to nitwit
quote:
Pointing out obvious weaknesses does not make a poster a "hater".
If the only commentary you have to add is criticism (founded or not), then yes, that does make you a hater.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:49 pm to El Campo Tiger
You must be a troll. We went from no postseason for 4 years, to the NIT to an 8 seed in the NCAAT. Would you not call that improvement?
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:50 pm to El Campo Tiger
quote:Wait, what?!? Did you even read what I posted? I never compared choke jobs. LSU basketball has a history of them under many coaches.
If you want to compare the 2012 NIT finish with the 2015 NCAA First Round choke job and tell me LSU is light years better with CJJ, the answer to that is an emphatic HELL NO.
Slightly better...okay fine. Not much, though.
I also never said the program is light years better under CJJ. What I did is shine light on before and after. I continuously find myself in the awkward position as a CJJ knight when all I do is point out facts. The fact being that LSU has improved under CJJ - something you stated was untrue. The fact that LSU is relevant again in basketball and making national noise - hence SF bloggers taking shots. The fact the LSU was lock to make the NCAAT when many keyboard jockeys were saying NIT.
It's quite interesting the results that are expected taking over a broken program and with that the disdain for the results that have taken place. You can't say we need to get better but completely ignore that we have. What type of expectations did you have for CJJ? And on top of that, what type of expectations do you have for LSU basketball?
I say let it play out, CJJ has done enough in 3 years to warrant an optimistic view, not a negative one.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:53 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
TigerBait2008
Way to back up your statements with facts, dumbass.
The last three years:
2011-12 18-15 NIT first round loss
2014-15 22-11 NCAA first round choke job
WOW!!!! Big difference in wins over the last three years!! Let's build the man a statue!!!
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