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re: To all the Johnny Jones haters..
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:49 pm to Tiger79
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:49 pm to Tiger79
Sometimes, talent doesn't execute. You can have a great game plan and lose a game by 30 if your team can't execute. I can teach you how to shoot free throws and we can work on them all year long. But it doesn't mean you won't ever miss one again.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:58 pm to tigerclaw10
quote:But.. but.. but.. Coach K has never lost a game by 30 points when it counted.
Sometimes, talent doesn't execute. You can have a great game plan and lose a game by 30 if your team can't execute.
/sarcasm not directed at you, just the derps.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:03 pm to drizztiger
This is the same thing as football and it's becoming kind of comical. Some people just don't understand sports.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 6:22 am to drizztiger
You're spot on! Tell it!!
Posted on 4/22/15 at 7:24 am to TigerBait1127
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I think that a large issue with our scoring droughts will be solved by having a guy like Simmons bringing the ball up the floor in crunch time
For those who have not seen this kid play, he brings a lot to the table with his ball handling, and passing ability and a very good court vision.
He'll create space for our shooters and more importantly he'll get them the ball when they are open. And he will not have to be coached or coaxed to do this, he already knows how, it's in his DNA. He has a high basketball IQ.
I think an issue for me with CJJ is that he has not been able to motivate, coax or coach his kids to do what he asks and wants very consistently. For me this is more of the problem than his not knowing what to do...it's getting his kids to do it.
That won't IMHO be an issue with Simmons. And that will help CJJ a lot with what is I think may be his main coaching flaw to this point at LSU.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 7:27 am to atltiger6487
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True, it's not quite the same as football, but x ans o's are still very important in basketball.
My high school coach used to draw up plays or sets for us and he used X's and O's on the board when he did it. And we did pretty darn well. I think it's fine to use this in describing basketball in a coaching or strategic sense.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:03 am to tigerclaw10
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I can teach you how to shoot free throws and we can work on them all year long. But it doesn't mean you won't ever miss one again.
Six in a row at the end of the game that defines your season and your coaching career up to this point? Your team has a lack of focus and mental toughness. That can also be taught and emulated.
Even Shaq would get lucky and bank a free throw if you gave him six attempts.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 8:20 am
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:13 am to lsutigers1992
My biggest issue with Jones is effort and focus. Players make lazy or unforced mistakes (such not blocking out, not hustling to the defensive end, throwing the ball away unforced, getting lost on defense) and there are no consequences. If you watched Duke's run, even with 8 players, K did not allow lazy or unfocused play to go unnoticed. He pulled payers, even if it was just for a couple of possessions. Jones does not do this and his players continue to make the same lazy, undisciplined plays in March that they made in November.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:45 am to LSU Groupee
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To all the Johnny Jones haters.. by LSU Groupeequote: We struggled with getting separation and open looks at times What team doesn't? Stop trying to coach. If you could, you wouldn't be on a sports board beating your gums.
you cant be this miserable IRL. This is a message board....what do you expect moron.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:01 am to tigerclaw10
It is a known fact that one cannot be a Tiger fan unless he is a better coach than the incumbent.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:08 am to KanomieTiger
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It is a known fact that one cannot be a Tiger fan unless he is a better coach than the incumbent.
Name one person who said that he is a better coach than Johnny Jones.
All you people who bitch about EVERY SINGLE THING Obama does, does that mean you could be a better president? Or W--I don't care about party. What's sad is that some of you would say yes.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:51 am to drizztiger
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This is an ignorant post IMO. Princeton offense is designed for less talented teams to equalize the court.
You're completely missing my point, which was that x and o's CAN make a difference in basketball.
I wasn't saying the Princeton offense was something we should run - I only gave that as an example of a specific offensive set and tactic that CAN work. Good coaches design offensive sets to maximize the talent they have and exploit their opponent's weaknesses.
X and O's do matter in basketball.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:08 am to RedTigerRulz
quote:Yea sure kid. Tell us more, I am sure everyone is staring at their screens waiting to hear from the real morons about basketball. You know the ones like you. So they can laugh at every keystroke from your keyboard. Like I said anything from here attempting to break down Coach Jones abilities is complete crap. But, by all means keep trying. It does provide a grea
Do you know how stupid this sounds? You don't have to have a PHD in basketball to point out obvious weaknesses...moron.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:35 am to TGFN57
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Tell us more, I am sure everyone is staring at their screens waiting to hear from the real morons about basketball. You know the ones like you. So they can laugh at every keystroke from your keyboard. Like I said anything from here attempting to break down Coach Jones abilities is complete crap.
People who are this smug and laugh at constructive criticism because it comes from the common folk deserve the downfall they eventually have.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:51 am to TGFN57
Like I said anything from here attempting to break down Coach Jones abilities is complete crap.
You don't get it...what a surprise. You're confusing a legitimate criticism....like lets say....leaving timeouts on the board or misusing them....as "breaking down" CJJ. This criticism isn't a condemnation of his character its a issue anyone with eyes can see. But by all means, continue acting like a dik.
You don't get it...what a surprise. You're confusing a legitimate criticism....like lets say....leaving timeouts on the board or misusing them....as "breaking down" CJJ. This criticism isn't a condemnation of his character its a issue anyone with eyes can see. But by all means, continue acting like a dik.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 11:29 am to lsutigers1992
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People who are this smug and laugh at constructive criticism because it comes from the common folk deserve the do
Nothing even close to "smug" Just tired of hearing bullshite. My tolerance of such has gone down every year until I have pretty much none left. So, I call it when I see it and all the indignation howled because people can't deal with having a mirror put in front of them is , quite frankly, sad after the initial chuckle. Jesus folks here are the ones that are being smug. You have no idea about coaching in any kind of game at any level and you are here howling about time outs, play calling etc. and say "anyone with eyes" can see it. You can see it, fine. Too bad you haven't got a clue what you are looking at. OK. Done bandying words with trolls or kids with their panties in a twist.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 11:42 am to TGFN57
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Just tired of hearing bull shite
Have you listened to your own in this thread?
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You have no idea about coaching in any kind of game at any level
And you know this how?
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Too bad you haven't got a clue what you are looking at.
This is just too stupid to respond to.
Get off your high horse...pull the stick out of your azz and realize it is possible to say something constructive about Jones that is actually true. If you can't handle this...maybe TD is not for you.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 11:54 am to Tiger Ugly
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My high school coach used to draw up plays or sets for us and he used X's and O's on the board when he did it. And we did pretty darn well. I think it's fine to use this in describing basketball in a coaching or strategic sense.
That is because you wanted to win and not impress scouts to improve your draft status.
How many times have you seen college coaches draw up a play and the first time a "star' touched the ball, he ignored the play and took the shot.
How many times did you see our point guard, or Mickey, drive the lane and lose the ball in crunch time. If you have no depth, the player, such as Mickey has no fear of being benched.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:02 pm to roygu
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How many times did you see our point guard, or Mickey, drive the lane and lose the ball in crunch time. If you have no depth, the player, such as Mickey has no fear of being benched.
Coach K was down big to Wisconsin and he had to bench his best players. And then Random White Guy 5.0 came in off the bench out of nowhere and took over the game.
Good coaches can do that.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:04 pm to lsutigers1992
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And then Random White Guy 5.0 came in off the bench out of nowhere and took over the game.
"Random white guy" was a top 40 recruit, broski.
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