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re: Tidbit on the QB position.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 4:19 am to Mattwells90
Posted on 5/15/15 at 4:19 am to Mattwells90
I'm already on this train. He should have never been expected to be a starter ready last year. That is just the impatience of today's fans and media. Guy should have always been a redshirt player, but with the bad players we had behind Jennings, he had no choice.
We don't need him gangbusters out of the box, but he should fully come into his own by game 5 or 6. We do need his play making ability though. I was telling the SEC Rant the other day, that he's going to play like a better version of Josh Dobbs, who completely turned Tennessee's season around with no run, offensive line, or defense.
We don't need him gangbusters out of the box, but he should fully come into his own by game 5 or 6. We do need his play making ability though. I was telling the SEC Rant the other day, that he's going to play like a better version of Josh Dobbs, who completely turned Tennessee's season around with no run, offensive line, or defense.
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 4:57 am to Tiger Ree
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I hope I am wrong
No you aren't
Posted on 5/15/15 at 5:28 am to mmcgrath
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Over 7 games as a backup with 60% passing. He "broke out" his senior year because he played his senior year. He didn't suddenly turn into SEC caliber.
What about Matt Mauck 48.5% 6 games 782 yards 6.0 ypa 9 TDs 2 ints before his injury in 2002? Six of his TDs came against Miami (OH) and ULL. The best teams he played were a 10-4 V Tech (he looked horrid), a 3-9 Miss St (again terrible), and an 8-5 Florida team that he threw for 153 and 2 TDs. That was with a 3 year player in Meyers and a returning freshman phenom in Clayton. Oh, and Mauck didn't go to LSU until he was 21 (minor league BB prior), a redshirt sophomore, and had Jimbo Fisher as his OC and QB coach his whole time at LSU.
So I'll ask, why is Jennings fate already decided? Look, I believe Harris will have us explode on offense once he gets a few games under his belt, but I don't believe for a second that Jennings didn't, and won't improve after only one year starting.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:11 am to Datbayoubengal
This whole "LSU just needs an above average qb" or "game manager" narrative is such a crock of shite. Why some of you buy into this is beyond me.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:19 am to Rex
quote:Couldn't agree more. That said, Jennings will start every game unless he's on Mars.
Well, if Harris ISN'T the guy we are fricked.... again.
Jennings had more than sufficient time to become an SEC caliber quarterback and couldn't. He just does not have it.
quote:When?
Look, I believe Harris will have us explode on offense once he gets a few games under his belt,
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 6:22 am
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:28 am to Datbayoubengal
Your confidence must be based on the tremendous improvement we saw from Jennings over the course of the season last year. Or the many flashes of brilliance that we saw in numerous games that shows he's destined to be all-SEC, displaying a powerful arm and great pocket awareness. You can just tell he's got all the tools to be playing on Sundays in a few years. 
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:42 am to Icansee4miles
AJ = 5 losses
I hope the QB situation is resolved well before the season begins. I can't bear watching this offense fail with AJ at the helm. You have some of the best RBs & WRs in the country yet can't move the chains because your QB can't make progress.
I hope the QB situation is resolved well before the season begins. I can't bear watching this offense fail with AJ at the helm. You have some of the best RBs & WRs in the country yet can't move the chains because your QB can't make progress.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:35 am to Nix to Twillie
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He's better, but hell no.
After Dak Prescott, who has proven more at this point?
This season is kind of a wildcard for a lot of QB's in the conference.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:58 am to Datbayoubengal
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So I'll ask, why is Jennings fate already decided? Look, I believe Harris will have us explode on offense once he gets a few games under his belt, but I don't believe for a second that Jennings didn't, and won't improve after only one year starting.
Even when Matt Mauck was putting up inconsistent numbers he had games where he shined. He made plays and won games. If you looked at a line graph of Anthony Jennings's progress throughout the season it would look like this: ________________________________ Jefferson, Lee, 2012 Mett, 2002 Mauck--they all had coming out "moments" in their first year as a full time starter. Anthony Jennings did not, and hasn't come close. It doesn't mean he hasn't improved, but we haven't seen it in a game. There was at least one full-game performance for each of those other QB's in their first starting year that was visual evidence that they could be good, and more than likely will improve. One full year gone by - Didn't see it from AJ.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:07 am to Nix to Twillie
Still 8&4 if we are lucky. If one of the QB simply becomes average then we could be 9&3, 
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:10 am to Mattwells90
Hopefully that's what they've been thinking but they've just kept it close to the vest. It's good to see them both still working on it bc I think we'll need both throughout the season at some point anyway.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:56 am to cajunjj
I still think we go 10-2 and play in a new year's 6 bowl, even if Jennings starts and even if he doesn't do much better. Our QB play was horrid for most of 2010 but we found a way to make it work with, after the Tennessee game, some fine coaching. Les really did a great job with what he was working with that year. If we still have serious problems with both QB's I think the coaches will recognize it early enough to put in "Plan B." If they're smart they've already considered this.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:17 pm to Icansee4miles
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Your confidence must be based on the tremendous improvement we saw from Jennings over the course of the season last year. Or the many flashes of brilliance that we saw in numerous games that shows he's destined to be all-SEC, displaying a powerful arm and great pocket awareness. You can just tell he's got all the tools to be playing on Sundays in a few years.
You could just tell it from Mauck too couldn't you? Nobody said anything about him putting up huge numbers or even being good enough for the NFL, but you saying he can't improve at all just because you haven't seen it in 2 years is just stupid.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:18 pm to Nix to Twillie
Harris will beat out Jennings. He's the more talented QB. you can tell he's the more confident passer and runner.
Jennings never got better last year. And all we really expected was just taste of what his potential could be. Usually you get at least a play or two where you see some sign of a playmaker in development. We never got that. I think we did see a little bit of that in Harris though.
Harris never played as bad as Jennings did in that New Mexico st game. That some of the worst QB play I've seen, and he turned it over 3 times in one quarter.
Jennings never got better last year. And all we really expected was just taste of what his potential could be. Usually you get at least a play or two where you see some sign of a playmaker in development. We never got that. I think we did see a little bit of that in Harris though.
Harris never played as bad as Jennings did in that New Mexico st game. That some of the worst QB play I've seen, and he turned it over 3 times in one quarter.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:20 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:We were 5-1 and he had 9 TD's vs 2 INT's, plus he rushed for another 2 TD's and 175 yards? All this in his 2nd season after spending 3 years away from football? Translate that to a full season and it is 22 TD's vs 4 INT's, 1500 yards passing and another 350 running. I would accept the 48% passing percentage with those results.
What about Matt Mauck 48.5% 6 games 782 yards 6.0 ypa 9 TDs 2 ints before his injury in 2002?
Matt Mauck (2002) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony Jennings (2014)
That comparison is embarrassing.
And I am not a Jennings hater. He throws a nice long ball and has pretty good composure in the pocket. I just think that his short and intermediate game needs to improve greatly from where it was, and I am sure we would have heard about it by now if he made that much improvement already. He could be ready next year or even sometime this year, but his odds for this year are pretty slim.
And I am definitely not sold on Harris who seems like he could use an extra year as well.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:25 pm to Mattwells90
the ball coming out of Harris's hand is noticeably better
and this is from last year
if he gets his mental responsibilities down he could be an all timer
and this is from last year
if he gets his mental responsibilities down he could be an all timer
Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:33 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Our QB play was horrid for most of 2010 but we found a way to make it work with, after the Tennessee game, some fine coaching. Les really did a great job with what he was working with that year.
Fine coaching would have started Lee the next game and for the rest of the season. Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:44 pm to mmcgrath
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Interesting. You know how many QBs weren't "SEC caliber" their sophomore year? Rohan Davey threw 4 TDs and 4 ints his soph year. Finally broke out his senior year when he was most definitely SEC caliber. Kids progress. Imagine that.
Over 7 games as a backup with 60% passing. He "broke out" his senior year because he played his senior year. He didn't suddenly turn into SEC caliber.
Did you watch him earlier in his career? He most definitely wasn't ready. He was given chances to start and didn't perform well. Especially his first two years which is the same time frame we're discussing for AJ.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:09 pm to geauxjo
I will say it again...all QBs don't progress at the same pace...some start out great and flop soon after, never to return to form...most start slowly until they get the total game plan, then gradually get better...often they don't really shine until Junior or Senior year...I can think of several NFL QBs that never really shined until 3-4 years into the league play...some of you guys are so lonely and pathetic...and I think I know why...you live pitiful lives, I suspect!...Try being happy for once in your life!
Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:20 pm to Tiger Ree
Just shutup stupid..
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