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re: the easy part about trashing Miles
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:37 pm to dogman67
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:37 pm to dogman67
I sure hope that when Myer and Saban have to compete with a couple of fresh or soph qbs you guys will be as hard on them when they drop games....How about Saban at LSU in 2002 and 2004 with all that talent....we dropped 5 in 02 and 4 in 04....Why? No Matt Mauck (older leadership at the qb postion) that is why...
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Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:38 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Is he just lucky?
He is lucky that UT and UGA are the suck.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:40 pm to Fratastic423
Yes, just like we were lucky in 2003 that GA was the only other really good team around.....Florida was down (even though they beat us)....I will add that ark and Miss had really good teams though..
Again, it almost never matters how good you are, it is all about who you play and how good they are.
Again, it almost never matters how good you are, it is all about who you play and how good they are.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:50 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Urban Meyer has won the SEC East three out of the last four years and is going for the national title for the third time in that period. Is he just lucky?
Lucky to have landed Tebow, yes.
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Pete Carroll, for all the lack of actually winning a national title since 2004, has at least been in the thick of the race until the end most of the time
And Miles and LSU haven't been in the thick of it? We had a bad year last year (the same way Carroll is now) and we aren't in the thick of it? A game in Alabama gets called correctly or we get a few breaks against Florida and we are a shoe in.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:50 pm to LSUfan4444
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Urban lost 4 games with a heisman qb, MIles lost 5 and 2 (likely) with basically no, and very pedestrian qb play
It is not likely that LSU only loses 2 games this year. It's a definite possibility but they still play Ole Miss, Arky, and a decent team in a bowl.
3 losses is more likely than 2.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:54 pm to Nuts4LSU
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To lose the division by more than 2 games two years in a row is a pretty weak showing.
are you really calling a possible 10-2 season weak?
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If he has top 5-10 talent every year, he should finish in the top 5-10 every year.
not really. shite happens.
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Pete Carroll, for all the lack of actually winning a national title since 2004, has at least been in the thick of the race until the end most of the time,
last year was the only year we were not in the thick of it.
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and has not lost more than 2 games in a season since 2002.
so he did lose more than 2 games. how many times has Miles lost more than 2 games?
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Saban has Alabama a cinch to go 12-0 in the regular season for the 2nd straight year.
very impressive. not even meyer has done that.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:55 pm to dandan
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It is not likely that LSU only loses 2 games this year. It's a definite possibility but they still play Ole Miss, Arky, and a decent team in a bowl.
3 losses is more likely than 2.
Why would you conclude this? We are better than both of the SEC teams and Miles has never lost a bowl game. So you just like being negative about the season?
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:55 pm to LSUfan4444
Miles gets paid a LOT of money. Don't feel too sorry for him.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:57 pm to dandan
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It is not likely that LSU only loses 2 games this year. It's a definite possibility but they still play Ole Miss, Arky, and a decent team in a bowl.
3 losses is more likely than 2.
well then go ahead and say the same thing about bama and florida.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 2:57 pm to LSUfan4444
Cannot agree with the original posting more - in this day and age - repetitive 9-10 or 10-11 win seasons are a rarity. A BCS bowl opportunity every couple or three years in this conference and we ought to run naked down 3rd street.
This post was edited on 11/13/09 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:01 pm to MemphisJerk
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If Les Miles consistently won 9 games every year, are you still as happy with him?
Heck yes!
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:16 pm to PurpleNGold4Ever
Here's some outside perspective:
As an Auburn fan, we are praying that Saban and Meyer leave the conference and we cringed when Petrino took the Arkansas job.
We were happy when Les Miles stayed at LSU instead of going to Michigan. And we were not alone in that opinion.
I think the general consensus is that any coach at LSU (well, almost any) is going to have a top 5 team to work with, at least in terms of talent on paper. Miles is a good coach, but he's also dumb enough to lose games he should win.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:26 pm to AUFANATL
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Miles is a good coach, but he's also dumb enough to lose games he should win.
that applies to saban more than miles. if you look at history.
not to mention it just simply applies to all coaches.
and fwiw,
saban's record vs auburn at LSU 2-3
miles record vs auburn 4-1. good thing yall were happy he stayed.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:41 pm to noonan
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and fwiw, saban's record vs auburn at LSU 2-3 miles record vs auburn 4-1. good thing yall were happy he stayed.
That has little to do with either of those coaches and more to do with how good Auburn was during those respective years. And frankly we would much rather have Saban still at LSU as opposed to our hated rival Bama, where he is locking down all of the good in-state recruits and working overtime with a syncophantic media to restore the image of Auburn as Bear Bryant's little cow college.
Over the past three seasons in which Miles beat Auburn (07,08,09) they have obviously not been near as talented as they were during the Saban era at LSU. Granted, Miles did beat a talented AU team in 2005, but that was in OT, at night in Baton Rouge, when our kicker missed five field goals. Five!!! You can't credit him in any way for that.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:41 pm to noonan
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saban's record vs auburn at LSU 2-3
miles record vs auburn 4-1. good thing yall were happy he stayed.
BOOM (I have always wanted to do that)
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:48 pm to AUFANATL
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That has little to do with either of those coaches and more to do with how good Auburn was during those respective years
saban is 1-1 vs auburn these last 3 years (yet to play this year). Miles is 3-0.
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when our kicker missed five field goals. Five!!!
oh god this one again.
all of those field goals were from over 40 yards. and i think 2 of the 5 were from about 50. hardly automatic in the pros let alone college. why doesn't LSU/Miles get credit for not allowing your offense drive into decent scoring position.
btw, our kicker missed a couple of kicks in that game too and we had a couple of easy passes dropped.
its fun to play the if game.
This post was edited on 11/13/09 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:53 pm to PurpleNGold4Ever
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If Les Miles consistently won 9 games every year, are you still as happy with him?
Not really. Bc that means he is probably losing to Bama and Florida every year and BCS bowls would be very rare.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 3:58 pm to Fratastic423
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It is not likely that LSU only loses 2 games this year. It's a definite possibility but they still play Ole Miss, Arky, and a decent team in a bowl.
3 losses is more likely than 2.
Why would you conclude this? We are better than both of the SEC teams and Miles has never lost a bowl game. So you just like being negative about the season?
Realistic isn't negative. They lost to Arky and Ole Miss last year. Plus the season is officially a letdown after they have been eliminated from winning the West.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 4:01 pm to dandan
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Realistic isn't negative. They lost to Arky and Ole Miss last year. Plus the season is officially a letdown after they have been eliminated from winning the West.
is it being realistic to think all three teams are the same as last year?
earlier this season some dumbasses were saying LSU was going to go 6-6 and saying they were just being realistic.
Posted on 11/13/09 at 4:12 pm to dandan
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Realistic isn't negative. They lost to Arky and Ole Miss last year. Plus the season is officially a letdown after they have been eliminated from winning the West.
This is not a realistic statement though. We are a top 15 team. The teams we have left are not. Realistically we should easily beat both of those teams.
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