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re: the DA, Hillar Moore, said that the evidence against JJ is INCONCLUSIVE

Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:08 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:08 am to
quote:

But, yeah, let's accuse Hillar and the BRPD of railroading JJ
Wait.
You're putting Moore and the BRPD in the same bucket?
Really?

Why the hate for Hillar?

The BRPD fricked this up from Day#1.
Time may tell as to why. Contacts, political pressure, who knows. But based on its own PUBLIC statements, the BRPD jumped to conclusions, mischaracterized veracity of witnesses and their "independence", needlessly rushed to judgement, and then overcharged.

Hillar is playing the POS hand he was dealt.
If you think there is an equivalency between Hillar and the bumbling incompetent crew that represented the PD in this thing, I'm amazed.
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:10 am to
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Actually what he said was inconclusive was the DNA evidence taken from the shoes, not the entire case.


well, i give you that but if there is no DNA on the shoes then what do you use to convict...there is a witness who says he did it and there are witnesses who say he didn't do it...again there is REASON to DOUBT that JJ battered this guy...
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63511 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:11 am to
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The BRPD fricked this up from Day#1.
Time may tell as to why. Contacts, political pressure, who knows. But based on its own PUBLIC statements, the BRPD jumped to conclusions, mischaracterized veracity of witnesses and their "independence", needlessly rushed to judgement, and then overcharged.


Thank you. That has seemed to be the case from day one.












I'll overlook the "e" in judgment.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83372 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:13 am to
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.again there is REASON to DOUBT that JJ battered this guy...



So now the people who sat on the Grand Jury are in on this conspiracy? I mean how deep does the rabbit hole go?

Jefferson is frickED
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36707 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:15 am to
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Moore's inaction in steeping in early led to ALL of this hoopla and prevented JJ from playing, which equals WINS for us.


So does that put Moore in the "hate/dislike/never want JJ to play another snap group"?? Sorry .. I had to ask.

And no, I'm not in that group BUT I don't think he needs to be the starter. Hoping that he has SOMETHING to contribute SOMEWHERE. See, I'm all about pulling for the Purple & Gold!



Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123915 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:15 am to
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He also said, and I quote "Jordan Jefferson kicked the victim in the head". He didn't stutter, he didn't qualify it.
Wow.
Great.
That and $3 will buy you a hamburger.






Put another way, if a prosecutor's characterizations of a defendant reliably constituted either truth or guilt, no defendant would ever go free.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27907 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:15 am to
quote:

well, i give you that but if there is no DNA on the shoes then what do you use to convict...there is a witness who says he did it and there are witnesses who say he didn't do it...again there is REASON to DOUBT that JJ battered this guy...

Man have you got this all screwed up

The only evidence that was inconclusive was the DNA. There were at least 8 eyewitnesses that gave sworn testimony that JJ kicked Lowery. There were only 3 LSU players called, and they admitted they werent with JJ the entire night.

The GJ felt he was guilty, but probably didnt want to hammer him with a felony.

But there was plenty of evidence.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29386 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:16 am to
Still think we are a better team with Lee as QB running the offense we are running.

That being said, in my time at LSU I saw a lot of barfights. NEVER has the BRPD put this much effort into a barfight investigation.

Still feel like someone was trying to get their name in the paper.
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:16 am to
Has Doc committed suicide by dildo strangulation yet?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:17 am to
quote:

But there was plenty of evidence.


like what?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:17 am to
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first of all Ellshoe if we got into a fight outside of the bulldog i prolly would have whupped your arse...


Are you really an attorney? I'm wondering because you have poor typing skills, spelling skills, and grammar skills. You must be the reason they now make law students sit through clinics on how to conjugate a verb and place proper punctuation. Every one of your posts looks like a 4th grader wrote it.
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:19 am to
quote:

The GJ felt he was guilty, but probably didnt want to hammer him with a felony.


ROB were you sitting in on the GJ deliberations?
Posted by NemesisKING
Member since Apr 2011
77 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:19 am to
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This post was edited on 9/29/11 at 8:20 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:19 am to
quote:

That being said, in my time at LSU I saw a lot of barfights. NEVER has the BRPD put this much effort into a barfight investigation.


Since ShadyGate there have probably been dozens of barfights in the BR area....i wonder how many apartments searched, clothing confiscated, and DNA tests have been done.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:20 am to
I think it's awesome that some lsu fans are celebrating that the former starting qb was indicted for ONLY a misdemeanor of kicking someone in the head

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:20 am to
quote:

f it were you or him you wouldn't have been caught, you would have kick some arse and ended up at another bar or at home in bed, like every other participant in any nightly bar fight


maybe or maybe not. That wasn't the point of the post. The point was if the police had any type of identification to go on we wouldn't have gotten the same treatment the football playing gentlemen did.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22682 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:21 am to
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So does that put Moore in the "hate/dislike/never want JJ to play another snap group"?? Sorry .. I had to ask.


I don't think any of Moore's or BRPD's actions were intentional or make them part of this group. Their actions just had a positive effect on the team, that's all.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:22 am to
quote:

I think it's awesome that some lsu fans are celebrating that the former starting qb was indicted for ONLY a misdemeanor of kicking someone in the head


misdemeanors happen brah. No biggie at all for even the average person. frick, you can still be a cop or lawyer or judge with a whole slew of them
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123915 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:23 am to
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I think it's awesome that some lsu fans are celebrating that the former starting qb was indicted for ONLY a misdemeanor of kicking someone in the head
Yep.
Almost as awesome as those who've prejudged him as guilty.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:23 am to
quote:

I think it's awesome that some lsu fans are celebrating that the former starting qb was indicted for ONLY a misdemeanor of kicking someone in the head


i think its awesome that you've already convicted JJ of kicking someone in the head.


why are you even here if you're not an LSU fan?
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