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re: So let me get this straight
Posted on 2/12/10 at 5:06 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
Posted on 2/12/10 at 5:06 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
TEAMS DID NOT STACK THE BOX AGAINST US. ON OBVIOUS RUNNING DOWNS: YES. ON FIRST AND SECOND:NO
Posted on 2/13/10 at 12:04 am to CAJUN LSU MAN
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and yes, we can compare JR and JJ. Russell has a better arm (stronger, a little more accurate) and most importantly IMO, Russell was a confident QB at LSU. he had moxie and believed in himself and his team that they could drive the ball down the field. I don't think JJ is to that point yet.
If they are different than why are we comparing them again?
Posted on 2/13/10 at 12:27 am to LSURep864
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Jefferson had a better Qb rating than Russell his Sophomore year, more TD's, Less INT's, and a better Completion PCT, and a longer pass on the season, and only around 300 less yards. But somehow you jack asses on the rant think he's not an SEC caliber QB?
A perfect example of how stats can be misleading. It's true that completing passes, throwing TDs and avoiding interceptions are parts of a QB's job. Other parts include reading defenses, checking into the right play, managing the organization of the offensive team and, most importantly, making the offense productive.
Most of the stats you cite above are easily manufactured by protecting a QB with playcalling or employing a different philosophy of offense. It's easy to have a better completion percentage when you throw more short passes than when you throw downfield more. It's easy to avoid interceptions when the play-calling has to be designed to protect you from them than when you are allowed to make plays. It's easy to throw for more TDs when the OC calls pass plays near the goal line than when the OC practically always tries to punch it in on the ground in the red zone.
But the bottom line is offensive production. Points first and foremost, but yards are also a good indicator. We had one of the worst offenses in the country this year on both counts, largely because we did not have a QB we could trust to throw accurately downfield, read the defenses correctly, make the right checkoffs and avoid the pass rush (oh, I noticed you didn't mention their sack to attempts ratios...that information must not have been available).
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Seriously I don't know what the frick you guys are smoking
Marlboro Reds, in the box. I don't recommend them, though. They constrict blood flow to the brain, and I don't think you can afford for that to happen.
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If you think JJ isnt the right guy based on this season you're a fricking moron plain and simple.
Here's a fun game for you...
Start with the number of games Jordan Jefferson has started at quarterback for LSU. Divide that by the number of games in 2009 when we were down two points in the final minute and could not afford to lose yardage and/or time and lost because Jefferson either A) got sacked to take us out of field goal range or B) threw to the middle of the field short of a first down with no timeouts left. Multiply that result by the number of losses we have suffered in the nine SEC games Jefferson has started at QB. Then multiply the result by the combined points we scored against Alabama and Florida this year. Then divide that result by Jefferson's jersey number. Then add that result to the total number of points we scored in our four losses in 2009. Then subtract the number of seasons that Jefferson has been on the LSU football team. What do you get?
This post was edited on 2/13/10 at 12:43 am
Posted on 2/13/10 at 6:01 am to Nuts4LSU
you sir are an idiot. you blame jj for a wr not running to the first down marker. SO NOW JJ IS SUPPOSED TO COACH WIDEOUTS.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 6:59 am to TigerFan55555
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TigerFan55555
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There is not a single D coordinator in the SEC who is concerned about JJ beating them..
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please show me the poll of all the other SEC DC's proving this, thanks.
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your an idiot!...every DC in the league loaded the box and ran Bump and Run Nickel packages against us...fricking retard...
polls, Ill give you a pole...stupid pos...
so you have no proof to back up that statement which was quoted as if it was a "fact" and you revert to name calling because you can't, how mature, I hate when people act like they know something is fact when it's only their stupid opinion. For your pee brained information, my IQ is in 140's, far from being a retard, if you even know what the definition of a retard is. When are you moving out of mommie and daddies house?
Posted on 2/13/10 at 7:05 am to ultratiger89
ultra, the funny part is if you rewatch the games, anybody can see that most teams did't stack the box. on obvious running downs, yes, they stacked the box. on first and second, teams stopped our running game with a conventional 7 man front.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 7:45 am to ultratiger89
Our offense made every defense we played against, look dominant.
This post was edited on 2/13/10 at 7:47 am
Posted on 2/13/10 at 8:25 am to CAJUN LSU MAN
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ultra, the funny part is if you rewatch the games, anybody can see that most teams did't stack the box. on obvious running downs, yes, they stacked the box. on first and second, teams stopped our running game with a conventional 7 man front.
and the other funny part is some people seem to think they know what 11 DC's in the SEC think or feel, without having one ounce of proof, only their own opinion.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 5:49 pm to CAJUN LSU MAN
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you sir are an idiot. you blame jj for a wr not running to the first down marker
No, you stupid fricker. I'm blaming JJ for throwing to a receiver who was running a pattern DESIGNED to be well short of the first down and to give the receiver a chance to run for the first down. In that time situation, you do NOT throw to that fricking receiver, you throw to another one or you throw the fricking ball away.
This post was edited on 2/13/10 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 2/13/10 at 5:52 pm to ultratiger89
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the other funny part is some people seem to think they know what 11 DC's in the SEC think or feel, without having one ounce of proof, only their own opinion.
I'd be willing to bet pretty much anything I've got on this opinion: 11 DCs in the SEC hope Gary Crowton stays at LSU for a long time. John Chavis is the only one who doesn't.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 6:01 pm to fitz1190
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not scoring on every possession is unacceptable
thats not far from the truth for the rantards
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