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Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:00 am to Lonnie4LSU
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So, you don't think mental and physical maturity matter in football, huh?
If he's not ready then dont play him...let him "mature" get someone else...Quit making retarded excuses...I believe a 19 year old won the fricking Heisman trophy...
Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:12 am to acgeaux129
Sorry guys but JJ will never be better than average. 
Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:18 am to cajunjj
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Sorry guys but JJ will never be better than average
those idiot think were like "yeah he sucks and were gonna lose!"
I wish that he could take us all the way...if he does and Im wrong great!!! ill still be estatic, but until that happens ill have my doubts...what sucks is we can see he's not gonna take us anywhere and we have a dumbass coach who thinks he will...
Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:33 am to extremetigerfanatic
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So Jefferson had to deal with a hurricane and 20 people living in his apartment including Fats Domino this season?
Man! Now that is grasping at straws brother. Congrats.
When you got nothing relevant, throw BS against the wall and see if it sticks.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:40 am to LSURep864
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Jefferson had a better Qb rating than Russell his Sophomore year, more TD's, Less INT's, and a better Completion PCT, and a longer pass on the season, and only around 300 less yards. But somehow you jack asses on the rant think he's not an SEC caliber QB? Seriously I don't know what the frick you guys are smoking. If you think JJ isnt the right guy based on this season you're a fricking moron plain and simple.
Do NOT bring logic and reason onto this website.
You will be ostracized by the uneducated dregs of this crappy fanbase.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:46 am to LSURep864
JR led LSU to the SECCG with an 11-1 record his soph yr.
I have a hard time seeing JJ ever leading LSU to the SECCG.
I have a hard time seeing JJ ever leading LSU to the SECCG.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 9:46 am
Posted on 2/11/10 at 9:52 am to lsu xman
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JR led LSU to the SECCG with an 11-1 record his soph yr.
I have a hard time seeing JJ ever leading LSU to the SECCG.
Well, Im just gonna go on his STATS perdiction and how he's gonna make a huge jump just like JR did and perdict we go 14-0 he'll throw 14,000 yards with 80 TD's and 115% completion %
just because his stats say he was Identical (one year) to a guy that had a ceiling so high he was taken #1 overall in the draft...
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Do NOT bring logic and reason onto this website.
and you want to talk about logic?
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:13 am to TigerFan55555
This thread is a perfect demonstration of why taking extreme positions is stupid. The discussion is not either JJ is terrible or great, it's whether his better-than-you-thought performance as a sophomore might demonstrate that he could develop into a really good QB.
I don't think one person has honestly suggested he will be JaMarcus. But he doesn't have to be. If he's putting up good not great numbers as a sophomore, it is not unrealistic to project JJ to put up better numbers in his junior and senior years. Players improve, usually. The question should not be "will JJ improve?" but "how much?"
I don't think one person has honestly suggested he will be JaMarcus. But he doesn't have to be. If he's putting up good not great numbers as a sophomore, it is not unrealistic to project JJ to put up better numbers in his junior and senior years. Players improve, usually. The question should not be "will JJ improve?" but "how much?"
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:23 am to Baloo
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This thread is a perfect demonstration of why taking extreme positions is stupid. The discussion is not either JJ is terrible or great, it's whether his better-than-you-thought performance as a sophomore might demonstrate that he could develop into a really good QB.
I don't think one person has honestly suggested he will be JaMarcus. But he doesn't have to be. If he's putting up good not great numbers as a sophomore, it is not unrealistic to project JJ to put up better numbers in his junior and senior years. Players improve, usually. The question should not be "will JJ improve?" but "how much?"
I can agree with this....but you also have to remember that he can get worse b/c opposing DC's will have a year to study him...if he doesnt work hard he will regress because DC's will put us in a position to fail if the play book isnt opened up and were still vanilla on offense...hell, Bama's D can make and NFL teams O look bad if they know whats coming and load the box to make a mediocre QB beat you...I like those odds too if Im a D-coord...
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:42 am to TigerFan55555
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I believe a 19 year old won the fricking Heisman trophy...
And his team lost 4 fricking games. What's your point?
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:45 am to rickyh
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The offensive line may have been the worst in LSU history
+1
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:54 am to LSURep864
people love to drink the jamarcus kool aid. he has a nice 6 game stretch in 06 and everybody got erect over his arm strength. fumbled on the 1 at gainesville. IMO that cost us the game. we wouldve been up 14-0 at fla. wet the bed on the final drive against auburn during the ref gate game in 07. took a sack w/o any t.o.'s left. continuously threw into dbl and trpl coverages. his only legacy was the 05 bama o.t. and the 06 tenn final drive. O-ver Ra-ted
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:54 am to TigerFan55555
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World Com
Enron
Freddie Mac
Allan Stanford
The companies intentionally falsified financial records. Don't see how this compares. The NCAA keeps the stats and so do the football conferences.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:57 am to MightyYat
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And his team lost 4 fricking games. What's your point
the other one won the NT this year...thats my point...quit making the 19 years old excuse!!
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:58 am to Baloo
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The discussion is not either JJ is terrible or great, it's whether his better-than-you-thought performance as a sophomore might demonstrate that he could develop into a really good QB.
I don't think one person has honestly suggested he will be JaMarcus. But he doesn't have to be. If he's putting up good not great numbers as a sophomore, it is not unrealistic to project JJ to put up better numbers in his junior and senior years. Players improve, usually. The question should not be "will JJ improve?" but "how much?"
Agreed. Tee Martin QB'd Tennessee to the NC not Peyton Manning. Matt Mauck and Flynn for LSU, not Davey, Booty, or Russell.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:58 am to Will2nd
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The companies intentionally falsified financial records. Don't see how this compares. The NCAA keeps the stats and so do the football conferences.
you looking at it wrong, i see your point though, it means numbers can be misleading...i should have used a better example...apologies...
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:59 am to TigerFan55555
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If he's not ready then dont play him...let him "mature" get someone else...Quit making retarded excuses...
There is a reason you don't see teenage QB'S in the NFL and the reason is cause they have neither the Mental or physical maturity needed to complete.
The same goes for college football. The rule in college football is you don't win championships in big time college football with 19 yr old QB's who are one yr into the program. Can we find exceptions, yes, but that doesn't negate the rule and doesn't negate the fact that age is a factor in the development of a QB.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 11:03 am to TigerFan55555
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you looking at it wrong, i see your point though, it means numbers can be misleading...i should have used a better example...apologies...
I see where you're coming from. There was a QB that played for the Buffalo Bills that was preferred over Doug Flutie, but the reason he kept getting signed to teams appeared to be based on his QB rating. The word was he would rather take sacks to protect his rating versus throwing the ball away. Just don't remember his name. However, I don't believe JJ is doing that. I just believe he's making correctible mistakes.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/11/10 at 1:00 pm to Will2nd
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However, I don't believe JJ is doing that. I just believe he's making correctible mistakes.
I believe his mistakes are correctable, I just dont believe he can correct them...
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