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re: Ranking the Top 10 LSU Shortstops since 1990
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:09 am to therick711
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:09 am to therick711
1. Russ Johnson
2. Brandon Larson
3. Austin Nola
4. DJ Lemahieu
5. Jason Williams
6. Aaron Hill
7. Alex Bregman
8. Ryan Theriot
9. Blake Gill
10. JC Holt
2. Brandon Larson
3. Austin Nola
4. DJ Lemahieu
5. Jason Williams
6. Aaron Hill
7. Alex Bregman
8. Ryan Theriot
9. Blake Gill
10. JC Holt
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:11 am to Harry456
quote:
10. JC Holt
I'm not sure how anyone is ranking a guy that played 7 games at LSU at shortstop in the top 10. He was a center fielder, fellas, after that he was a second baseman.
quote:
he Tigers' center fielder in 2003 after starting 43 games in 2002 as an infielder (35 at second base, seven at shortstop, one at DH) . . . made a huge impact as a true freshman in 2002, as he was named a Freshman All-American by two publications and the LSWA Louisiana Freshman of the Year . . . named the 2003 MVP of the Cape Cod Baseball League, the wooden-bat summer league for collegiate players . . . as a member of the Brewster Whitecaps, batted a league-high .388 (52-for-134) in the CCBL with six doubles, one triple, one homer, 19 RBI, 25 runs and 13 steals . . . voted to the 2003 Baseball America Summer all-America team after his outstanding CCBL performance . . . hit .333 (25-for-75) in LSU's 2003 fall intra-squad games with 10 doubles and one homer.
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People ahead of JC Holt on the list, Andy Sheets, Michael Hollander, Josh Dalton, etc.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/2/15 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Holy shite I cant believe I just read that Bregman has twice the range of Nola. Nola was fundamentally sound, but Bregmans range blows his out of the water
I disagree.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 12:18 pm to bma28
quote:
1a.Bregman (More spectacular plays and range than any other LSU SS)
1b.Nola (Steadiest and most reliable of all time)
3.Sheets (Smooth as silk defensively)
4.Johnson (Underrated because he was such a great hitter)
5.Theriot
6.Williams
7.Hill
8.Larson
Aaron Hill made 39 errors at LSU.
Theriot made 32 errors in 2001 alone (68 in his career which includes a stint at second). Clearly, you have to put Hill ahead of Theriot on a defensive list, too. Where were you people when Aaron Hill was playing?
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:18 pm to ColeLSU
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Hill, Breg, Larson, and Johnson should prolly be the Top 4 in some fashion.
Hill was pretty meh until his Jr year when he was SECPOY.
Bregman has been way more consistent at the plate.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:24 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
With so many more talented players, its interesting that Theriot probably had the longest/best pro career. (and not just among shortstops)
He's the Ryan Clark of LSU baseball.
He's the Ryan Clark of LSU baseball.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:25 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
How the f**k do you have JC Holt in there and not Michael Hollander?!
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:29 pm to Stevo
quote:
No, he hit during the "juiced bat" era.
Incorrect. The juiced bat era started later on in the 90's. Guys like Walker and Johnson were before the juiced bat era.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:30 pm to upgrade
quote:I mean that is fine, but it truly isnt really an opinion or close really. Bregmans range is far greater than Nola's
I disagree.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:32 pm to BallChamp00
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Andy Sheets nowhere on it? Started shortstop for Padres in a World Series.
List fail, guy was a stud
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:32 pm to Lester Earl
Hill, who played with different beat restrictions
Freshman: .299/.375/.463 (5HR 46 RBI) . didnt play SS. 2B/LF/DH
Soph: .329/391/550 (9HR 47). For some perspective, he was the 5th best hitter on the team. 22 errors. Was a mess in the field this year, if people remember.
JR: .358/.466/592 (9HR 67 RBI) 13 errors
Bregman
FR 369/417/546 (6HR 52 RBI) 16-17 SB. Nat FR of Year, 1st team AA, Brooks Wallace award(best SS in nation) 14 errors
Soph:316/397/455 (6 HR 47 RBI) 12-18 SB 10 errors
JR 318/414/548 (9 HR 47 RBI)35-45 SB 8 errors
Freshman: .299/.375/.463 (5HR 46 RBI) . didnt play SS. 2B/LF/DH
Soph: .329/391/550 (9HR 47). For some perspective, he was the 5th best hitter on the team. 22 errors. Was a mess in the field this year, if people remember.
JR: .358/.466/592 (9HR 67 RBI) 13 errors
Bregman
FR 369/417/546 (6HR 52 RBI) 16-17 SB. Nat FR of Year, 1st team AA, Brooks Wallace award(best SS in nation) 14 errors
Soph:316/397/455 (6 HR 47 RBI) 12-18 SB 10 errors
JR 318/414/548 (9 HR 47 RBI)35-45 SB 8 errors
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:32 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
quote:You realize the bats were the same right? The bats didnt change
Incorrect. The juiced bat era started later on in the 90's. Guys like Walker and Johnson were before the juiced bat era.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:32 pm to bma28
quote:
Offense:
1.Johnson (Goat Offensively)
2.Larson (Took more Roids than Bonds but he could mash)
3.Hill
4.Williams (One of the best clutch hitters of all time)
5.Bregman
6.Theriot
7.Nola
8.Sheets
Defense:
1a.Bregman (More spectacular plays and range than any other LSU SS)
1b.Nola (Steadiest and most reliable of all time)
3.Sheets (Smooth as silk defensively)
4.Johnson (Underrated because he was such a great hitter)
5.Theriot
6.Williams
7.Hill
8.Larson
Until Bregman produces in the clutch (specifically the post season he cant be above those 4 offensively.) He's got a couple more weekends to move up the offense list.
If you put equal weight in offense and defense, then your composite rankings are:
1. Johnson
2. Bregman
3. Nola
4a. Larson
4b. Hill
4c. Williams
7a. Theriot
7b. Sheets
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:34 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You realize the bats were the same right? The bats didnt change
Wrong. They made giant improvements in bats from the early to late 90's. Maybe not in restrictions concerning length and weight requirements, but as far as the quality of bats, they improved tremendously.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:41 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
quote:Yeh Im not buying that. The juiced bat era was due to the "juiced player" The bat in 91-94 didnt change from 95-98
Wrong. They made giant improvements in bats from the early to late 90's. Maybe not in restrictions concerning length and weight requirements, but as far as the quality of bats, they improved tremendously.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The bat in 91-94 didnt change from 95-98
it definitely did.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:52 pm to Lester Earl
This thread is a shite show
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:52 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
quote:
If you put equal weight in offense and defense, then your composite rankings are:
1. Johnson
2. Bregman
3. Nola
4a. Larson
4b. Hill
4c. Williams
7a. Theriot
7b. Sheets
That's interesting the way it worked out but I just cant put Bregman above the guys who I remember as being clutch in the postseason and key cogs for LSU title teams.
My overall list is:
1. Johnson
2. Larson
3. Williams
4. Nola
5. Bregman
6. Hill
7. Sheets
8. Theriot
But seriously, what a ridiculous collection of college baseball players. Wow!
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:57 pm to Lester Earl
Ok use your words Lester what changed? I know they were still -5s, I know the specification rules were the same. I know big barrels became more popular but we're they invented then or just used more? I can't find anything that shows a "significant" change in bats in a 1-2 year period
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:58 pm to lsupride87
this vs this
Ever swing one of those Redline C-Core's?
Ever swing one of those Redline C-Core's?
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