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re: Question For The "Fire Les" Crowd
Posted on 10/26/10 at 5:51 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 10/26/10 at 5:51 pm to GRTiger
Let me get this straight: You're ready to settle for more of the same performances we've seen for the last two years? Granted, 9-3 doesn't look bad, especially to lesser teams, but 9-3 in the SEC West means third place, dude. Let's say Auburn is just a blip on the radar, ditto Arkansas. Bama ain't going away. Saban continues to attract top recruits and molds champion-caliber teams. Ready to settle for Second Place in the West? That's what it sounds like because that's our future if we don't make some dramatic changes sooner than later.
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Posted on 10/26/10 at 5:52 pm to mamoutiga
These threads are so pointless. It has never been about an acceptable amount of wins. Like it or not Saban built a program that now expects to be ELITE. It is NOT right now...these recruits deserve an ELITE program like they joined. Not a program that is ok with any record...only a program who always strives to be WAY better then everybody else and does not accept anything else. WTF!???
Posted on 10/26/10 at 5:53 pm to mamoutiga
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"the only thing that matters is Ws and Ls"
Truth.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 5:54 pm to mamoutiga
I've seen a Les Miles coached LSU possess all those qualities on several occasions. Are you saying we are lacking in all these categories every game? Are you saying he has the potential to be a good coach, given that he has shown he can produce your list?
Are you saying every other team out there shows these characteristics all the time? That is where our new coach would come from right? Name a coach out there, and I will find you several games where their team looked like they were coached by a monkey. A lot of you seem to think the phenomenon of imperfection doesn't apply to the LSU football coach.
Still not quite answering the question. I guess thread topis are irrelevent to most of y'all.
Are you saying every other team out there shows these characteristics all the time? That is where our new coach would come from right? Name a coach out there, and I will find you several games where their team looked like they were coached by a monkey. A lot of you seem to think the phenomenon of imperfection doesn't apply to the LSU football coach.
Still not quite answering the question. I guess thread topis are irrelevent to most of y'all.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:07 pm to GRTiger
Every close game, LSU looks like it has no coaching!
He has recruited these players, coached these players to know his schemes, and hired his assistants to coach his schemes. Yet, in the close games (and most are closer than they should be), our clock management, player personnel decisions, and play calling are ridiculed by most.
If we have a team that has a .500 record, but have been beaten by teams that have superior talent/schemes, I could be okay with that, as long as all our resources have been utilized fully.
I'm not seeing it with Miles.
He has recruited these players, coached these players to know his schemes, and hired his assistants to coach his schemes. Yet, in the close games (and most are closer than they should be), our clock management, player personnel decisions, and play calling are ridiculed by most.
If we have a team that has a .500 record, but have been beaten by teams that have superior talent/schemes, I could be okay with that, as long as all our resources have been utilized fully.
I'm not seeing it with Miles.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:10 pm to GRTiger
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It is more likely that LSU would have at least one 7 win season following Miles's departure
Why? there is a lot of talent that's not being used to their potential.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:11 pm to GRTiger
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It's vrtually impossible for a team to transition from a very successful coach immediately to another very successful coach. Partly because schools don't usually fire very successful coaches while they are still succeeding. And partly because the transition itself is a huge obstacle.
Hmmm GRtiger..that's a bold statement. Yet I think you're right in your subsequent post. You are too young. If you can't remember LSU in the 1990's, you are too young to make such a statement. I can pull out of my arse a coaching transition that contradicts your statement - Johnson/erikson. Or how about Saban to Miles? Coaching transitions don't always occur in relation to a termination of employment. Successful coaches can QUIT and be replaced by successful coaches. It happens and is not "virtually" impossible.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:11 pm to diablo blanco
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If we have a team that has a .500 record, but have been beaten by teams that have superior talent/schemes, I could be okay with that, as long as all our resources have been utilized fully.
I think your perception of what resources we have at our disposal is skewed. But you're not alone, it's like that all over this site.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:14 pm to chilge1
Why do you say that?
Are you saying that these so called five star recruits are, in fact, not the best available?
Or, Miles and crew have skewed our perceptions by saying they only recruit the best?
Are you saying that these so called five star recruits are, in fact, not the best available?
Or, Miles and crew have skewed our perceptions by saying they only recruit the best?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:15 pm to GRTiger
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What would be your expectations and/or predictions on LSU's record following the firing of Miles?
In the words of a pretty good coach, "we just want to improve and get better each week"..."winning will take care of itself if we stay focused on getting better as individuals and then as a team"
Nick Saban
Your understanding of the coaching situation is flawed.....getting better and making progress is the goal.............winning is the byproduct of doing first things first.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:16 pm to munchman
+1
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:17 pm to diablo blanco
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Why do you say that?
Are you saying that these so called five star recruits are, in fact, not the best available?
Or, Miles and crew have skewed our perceptions by saying they only recruit the best?
I am saying that never in the history of college football has there ever been a team as talented as people like to claim that this team is. The truth of the matter is that from a talent perspective, we are possibly below Florida and Alabama, on par with Auburn, and Georgia (and usually Tennessee), and above everyone else.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:22 pm to diablo blanco
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If we have a team that has a .500 record, but have been beaten by teams that have superior talent/schemes, I could be okay with that
You are full of shite.
Also, really? You'd rather have that than a 7-1 team?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:26 pm to GRTiger
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Still not quite answering the question. I guess thread topis are irrelevent to most of y'all.
I actually do agree with you. Miles isn't perfect, but no coach is. I think that people here lack the foresight to see what could happen if we hired someone else. People assume that we would improve, because they think that Miles is bad and that he is holding the team back. Most don't consider the possibility that another coach could do even worse, even one with previous success.
Also, knowing this place, there is no coach that would have the approval of the rant. They would find something to be angry about no matter what.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:28 pm to akcheat
For one, I'd rather have confidence in the direction of the program than be confused by a 7-1 record in late-October.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:33 pm to GRTiger
I find it funny that most of the people on here supporting Les Miles live (or say they do) outside of Louisiana, which leads me to believe most of the people supporting Miles don't have season tickets, and thus don't end up paying to watch the garbage that has been showing up on gameday on a consistent basis since the beginning of 08.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:37 pm to akcheat
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Most don't consider the possibility that another coach could do even worse, even one with previous success.
And that's because of Miles. People wouldn't feel this way if he had gone 7-5 in 2005.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:37 pm to TJG210
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I find it funny that most of the people on here supporting Les Miles live (or say they do) outside of Louisiana, which leads me to believe most of the people supporting Miles don't have season tickets, and thus don't end up paying to watch the garbage that has been showing up on gameday on a consistent basis since the beginning of 08.
That's the best argument I've ever heard.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:39 pm to TJG210
lsu has more than enough talent and fanbase support to be an elite program. elite programs like ohio state and usc and oklahoma arent satisfied with 8 and 9 win seasons and neither should we if we want to be among the elite. if you want to be mediocre then go ahead...jackassessssssssss 
Posted on 10/26/10 at 6:40 pm to chilge1
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Most don't consider the possibility that another coach could do even worse, even one with previous success.
I guess this is the same logic that Miles used in deciding not to go deep on the 110th ranked passing defense who lost 2 starters. We have to consider the possibility that those balls will be intercepted.
Ridiculous.
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