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re: Question about the QB situation at LSU.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:19 pm to FightinTiga
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:19 pm to FightinTiga
quote:I thought it IS up to Miles.
If it were up to Miles he would run the ball exclusively.
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:35 pm to abellsujr
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Question about the QB situation at LSU.
I trust in the coaches making the best decision (which is what they are paid big bucks to do). I don't necessarily agree with them (i.e. the Jordan Jefferson debacle in the NC game against the Gumps)
As far as right now...Harris to me has the most upside of any of the QB's I've seen (video highlights, spring game, etc.) But, once again, the coaches evaluate this extensively so I trust they are making the right call in who gets the nod.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:38 pm to lsu2006
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Other than that, why does the QB situation continue to be so perplexing
What exactly is perplexing?
LSU has had 1 yr of above average, consistent passing QB play in the last 6 yrs. I find that a tad perplexing for a school of our record and recruiting draw.
Maybe that's changing...we will see. Thing is, the "rule" in SEC QB play is that green, new to the program, teen age QB's have their struggles in this conference.
I hope Cam and the new guns are up to the task ahead of them.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:43 pm to TigersforEver
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You're right, and that's a little scary. It was so nice to run a real offense for a year
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:44 pm to LSURussian
quote:Only when things are going wrong.
I thought it IS up to Miles
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:49 pm to FightinTiga
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If it were up to Miles he would run the ball exclusively.
And we prob would have played for a bcs title.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:50 pm to lsu2006
Bolden barely played at PSU. He isn't elite.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:54 pm to abellsujr
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Perplexing is strange, unpredictable. I'm basically saying we have a lot of "high rated" QBs who come here and don't pan out. I didn't even bring up Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson.
We can go look at the recruiting rankings every cycle we took a qb and i bet you can find qbs rated higher than them that didnt pan out. other than kickers, qbs spots arent up for grabs, you only have one start, and you only have a few that are elite in the nfl. So its no surprise that we dont have a drew brees, manning, brady or rodgers every year on our team.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:09 pm to TheDeathValley
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Bolden barely played at PSU. He isn't elite.
I understand he wasn't a good QB, but he was rated high in high school. My point is, since Matt Flynn, here are some of the QBs on the roster:
RP: #1 DT QB, Kicked off team
JL: Top 10 PS QB, underachieved.
JJ: Top 10 PS QB, underachieved.
RS: #1 DT QB, switched to WR
RB: #2 DT QB, switched to WR
ZM: Was not a top 10, overachieved(in a good way).
SR: Top 20 PS QB, transfer to be a possible starter
AJ: top 6 DT QB, Being challenged by true Fresh
HR: top 3 PS QB, number 3 on roster
It's just a lot of, underachieving, I guess.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:13 pm to abellsujr
a multiyear starter just left.
Rivers transferred from LSU to Vandy so yeah he may start there. But then again maybe Harris or Jennings could too if they transferred.
Bolden sucked.
And Harris was a top rated QB too, and our new OC who specialized in QBs loves him.
not too perplexing.
Rivers transferred from LSU to Vandy so yeah he may start there. But then again maybe Harris or Jennings could too if they transferred.
Bolden sucked.
And Harris was a top rated QB too, and our new OC who specialized in QBs loves him.
not too perplexing.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:21 pm to abellsujr
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SR: Top 20 PS QB, transfer to be a possible starter at Vandy
Should explain why he was not going to start at LSU
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:21 pm to TigersforEver
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I'm surprised that, with Cam running the show, Rettig isn't in the lead. It seems pretty clear that he's the most polished passer of the group
TigrLee, that you? And what did you base that decision on? What body of work? Are you seeing something Cam, Miles and the rest of us haven't seen?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:24 pm to abellsujr
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Bolden was a top rated duel threat QB in high school who transfered from Penn State. I didn't make the ratings.
Right and he proved to not be very good at all at Penn State and was so buried on the depth chart here that he moved to WR.
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Perplexing is strange, unpredictable.
No shite.
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I'm basically saying we have a lot of "high rated" QBs who come here and don't pan out. I didn't even bring up Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson.
I'm not sure how you want to define highly rated, but we haven't exactly gotten world-killers in recruiting QBs. Throw in the RP situation, forcing us to throw Jefferson and Lee to the wolves, and the lack of a vaguely competent QB coach until Krags came along, and you get what we had from 08-11.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:24 pm to FightinTiga
quote:
If it were up to Miles he would run the ball exclusively.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:25 pm to TigersforEver
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I really thought Rivers was the guy after Mett, was disappointed when he transferred.
And when has Rettig looked bad? He should have gotten a lot more playing time in the SG, because when he came in he immediately threw a couple of great passes.
WHITE POWER
Steven Rivers is just not good at all. How on Earth people thought he was good, I have no idea.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:26 pm to TigersforEver
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I'm surprised that, with Cam running the show, Rettig isn't in the lead. It seems pretty clear that he's the most polished passer of the group.
Dude
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:27 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Steven Rivers is just not good at all. How on Earth people thought he was good, I have no idea.
Jefferson was black and athletic. He was bad. Rivers is white, tall and a "pocket passer". He's probably good.
Rantard logic 101, brah.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:30 pm to lsu2006
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Rivers is white, tall and a "pocket passer".
And his brother is Phillip, so he's automatically NFL 1st round material too.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:38 pm to abellsujr
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Other than that, why does the QB situation continue to be so perplexing.
I don't know if it's really perplexing but since you went back to Sheppard, this is my opinion:
1. With Jimbo (2000-2006) we had good QB play
2. It seems to me Crowton (2007-2010) could not develop a QB. As an OC his play calling/scheme may have been fine but as a QB position coach he was not good.
3. Krag may have panned out but unfortunately he became sick and with Stud as a help, then taking over, this had no chance.
4. Cameron is an NFL caliber OC/position coach and he will play the best guy. Judging by recent comments by Miles and what we've seen on tape we have 3 very young guys that I personally think will be Harris/Jennings/Rettig in that order. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those three seek transfer next year.
jmo man, I'm not an 'insider'.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 1:49 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Steven Rivers is just not good at all. How on Earth people thought he was good, I have no idea.
The most we saw of him was in last years Spring game and he looked pretty good.
No reason really to think either way.
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