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re: Nothing wrong with the idea of a split title

Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:46 am to
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:46 am to
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When the AP chose in 2003 to become a slave to the BCS by being a component part of the system, they were not free to name a champion on their own.

The AP in 2011 is free from the BCS and can choose who they want


This is what I am saying.

LSU fans need to understand this. Everyone else does. If we are held captive to our USC-hate from 2003 or Alabama-hate from all of their bogus titles, it could come back to bite us.

I think LSU wins, but if they don't and the AP awards this team a title, they will have deserved it and it should be appreciated.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:46 am to
Do you really want to have to explain why your partial championship is valid?
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:54 am to
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The AP in 2011 is free from the BCS and can choose who they want

So can the Bogalusa Daily News. That doesn't mean they're the national champions though.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:56 am to
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Do you really want to have to explain why your partial championship is valid?







I already have. It is valid because the AP says it is. The AP is expressing their OPINION. The BCS system expressed its OPINION. Every OBJECTIVE measure had Oklahoma St. playing in the game but the "eyeball test" but Bama in. It was corrupt.

Now, if Oklahoma St. had gotten in and beaten LSU and if the AP gave LSU their championship anyway, that would be ridiculous. I would think it was a joke and a dishonor ot OSU. It is only because it is Alabama, a team we already beat on their home field that the AP OPINION would have merit.

But, the AP might not even do this. It is speculative. If they did, though, it would be valid.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:57 am to
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So can the Bogalusa Daily News. That doesn't mean they're the national champions though.


Who did the Bogalusa Daily News vote for in 1992?

The AP voted for Alabama. I know that because it mattered. It matters now.

The Bogalusa Daily News has never mattered (if that is even a paper).
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:58 am to
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If they did, though, it would be valid.
our definitions of valid are clearly very different
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:02 am to
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We're going to be 14-0 & won't be sharing it with anyone.


so G man, we are gonna win the waterford crystal ball and the golden AP football??? like we did in 2007?

awesome....
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14665 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:09 am to
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I know that because it mattered. It matters now.

I guess if you think it matters then it matters to you. It certainly doesn't matter to me. My point was that the AP is as irrelevant as the Bogalusa Daily News when it comes to choosing a football champion.

If we lose to Bama and then the AP gives us a split title, I know that I won't be going around claiming that LSU is the national champ and I won't be calling for a "Two Peat" next year.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:14 am to
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Are you going to feel like your team is the national champion after losing the "National Championship Game?"


does not matter what you or I think. If we are awarded that AP golden football it WILL BE PUT IN THE TROPHY case just like the one we received from the AP in 2007 with the words NATIONAL CHAMPIONS on it!

F
A
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spin it how you want though.
Posted by jameison125
Jersey
Member since Aug 2007
2184 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:18 am to
You're trying to justify a potential loss. Nobody cares about the AP title. The BCS is what we want.
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1447 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:21 am to
We’re playing for the crystal. That’s all that matters. Anything else you want us to “claim” is just being a poor sport if we happen to lose. If we lose and the AP still vote us number 1, please don’t hoist a flag up for it.
Posted by Pierre
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5289 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:39 am to
AP is worthless. BCS title is what we are playing for. Fap (frick the AP)

Fap fap fap fap fap
This post was edited on 12/7/11 at 11:40 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72899 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:44 am to
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The BCS is what we want.


really? ya think??????? LSU will gladly accept the AP trophy whether we win or lose. if you have problems with it please take it up with Joe Alleva and others. Thanks.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52605 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:45 am to
quote:

It is valid because the AP says it is
winning the AP and not the BCS trophy reminds me of another hollow celebration


Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:48 am to
please then go tell Les Miles to tell The administration to Throw out our AP trophy from the trophy case from 2007 since you hate it so much.

Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:50 am to
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please then go tell Les Miles to tell The administration to Throw out our AP trophy from the trophy case from 2007 since you hate it so much.
not big on reading, are you? i said i would put it in the trophy case but not tout ourselves as national champions because we wouldn't be.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72899 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Pierre
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5289 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Throw out our AP trophy from the trophy case from 2007 since you hate it so much.


Not valid arguement. The AP trophy came with the BCS Trophy that year.

Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 11:58 am to
quote:


solid argument
Posted by iggle
Member since Oct 2007
2649 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 12:03 pm to
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i said i would put it in the trophy case but not tout ourselves as national champions because we wouldn't be.


then you would look like an idiot while the media and the rest of the country would refer to us as national champions. It would be displayed in every graphic on tv during sports broadcasts and games, it'd be on every website and database, and it would most definitely be claimed by LSU and be in all their media guides.

You would look like a whiney little bitch still calling LSU 3 time national champs while the rest of the country would say 4. LSU fans are the worst sometimes, they have to have it perfect or nothing at all. They want everything in the media to be 100% praising them, or nonstop bitch about why it's not.
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