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re: Matt Hayes: Jayden Daniels is LSU's QB1, and it's not close
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:30 pm to The Boat
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:30 pm to The Boat
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My dream one day is sportswriters figure out no one cares what they think
I have a dream as well, to never see or hear people refer to people they don’t know personally by nicknames such as Nuss.
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:31 pm to 3PieceSpicy
No . Totally incorrect . Nuss has not even had one entire college game !! Bad decisions against Southern . NM state threw some great passes that made me say “ Dang ! “ that was a quick drop back and quick release ! Then really lit it up against Georgia . If JD played with bionic ankles the entire game against Georgia , score would be 60 to 10 !!
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:36 pm to DBG
Years ago , before too many teams were throwing it around in college . Before Jimbo discovered beer and grass fed beef !! The college game has REALLY changed now .
No more Bud Wilkinson stuff ( if you are familiar with the name ).
No more Bud Wilkinson stuff ( if you are familiar with the name ).
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:44 pm to Geauxgurt
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That happens when a guy has limited experience and is playing the best d in the country. So, Daniel’s gets 40+ games to show improvement and Nuss gets like 2 maybe 3 games equivalent of play some with second stringers?
This. How good would Nuss be if he had Jayden’s experience? I think he would be a much more dangerous quarterback and he would learn when to take chances and when to not take chances.
There is the possibility he would not learn, but there is more upside with Nuss than there is with Jayden. I assume the same is true of Howard.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:54 pm to ChEgrad
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How good would Nuss be if he had Jayden’s experience? I think he would be a much more dangerous quarterback and he would learn when to take chances and when to not take chances.
Do you want to find out and lose 4-5 games again in the process?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:55 pm to TigerFanPA
Who the frick is Matt Hayes and why has he never watched a game?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:34 pm to boweswi05
CBK looked at tape on Brennan . Great arm , smart kid , slight build , zero foot speed . He would get killed in SEC play , especially with a very weak O-line . So , he goes to the portal and convinces JD to transfer . CBK said the decision to start was “ very close . “
You convince a kid to come with promises of starting ( unless something unusual ) , a mature , good kid , who tries to follow coaching . You have to start him . Even so , CBK said the decision on starter was “ very close . “ Now … Nuss has a very crisp , quick drop back , a very quick release , a beautiful throwing motion ( game commentators , not just me ) , he has NO PLAYING TIME !! Look what he did in the second half of GA game !!
You would be stupid not to try and develop him !! Now … my prediction : JD will not advance his draft stock staying . He will not start in the NFL . He will not win the Heisman .
You convince a kid to come with promises of starting ( unless something unusual ) , a mature , good kid , who tries to follow coaching . You have to start him . Even so , CBK said the decision on starter was “ very close . “ Now … Nuss has a very crisp , quick drop back , a very quick release , a beautiful throwing motion ( game commentators , not just me ) , he has NO PLAYING TIME !! Look what he did in the second half of GA game !!
You would be stupid not to try and develop him !! Now … my prediction : JD will not advance his draft stock staying . He will not start in the NFL . He will not win the Heisman .
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:40 pm to ChEgrad
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I think he would be a much more dangerous quarterback IF he would learn when to take chances and when to not take chances.
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:42 pm to TigerFanPA
The only thing I can take solace in is that fans have no say in who we start. JD is so far ahead of everyone and it’s not even close.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:44 pm to Lester Earl
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Do you want to find out and lose 4-5 games again in the process?
We lost 4 games with Daniels. Probably easily lose a 5th if Arkansas' starting QB played. That game was so ugly. Not sure how anyone can predict wins/losses next season.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:52 pm to The Boat
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My dream one day is sportswriters figure out no one cares what they think
A noble wish for sure.
But that's not true in the case of the Rantards. They hang on every word a sports reporter says or writes. Celebrating or melting depending on whether the piece worships L S U or not.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:54 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Man, the hard on some of y’all have for Nuss is absurd.
Nuss is a gunslinger. Nothing more. Nothing less. Do you remember the half that Southern outscored him in?
Sorry we are excited? Less concerned about what he did against Southern than what he did more recently against Georgia.
I don't understand why people assume Daniels can improve, but not someone else with more reps? Daniels has been playing much longer.
I would happily take a Brett Favre QB. I rather have an offense that might turn it over, but also has the confidence and ability to easily make it up. DeShaun Watson threw around 40 TDs with nearly 20 INTs his last season at Clemson. I would happily take that over starting slow every half in games. It depends upon the ratio to me.
I prefer the QB that gets the receivers more involved consistently, but that's just a preference. It's fine to disagree and I'm not saying it has to be Nuss.
Some INTs are basically punts anyways. I welcome deep down field passing. Constant punts in a first half are basically turnovers anyways. Daniels frustrates me, because he is so inconsistent. He can hold the ball too long and take way too many sacks for such a mobile guy, but then he can also get you spectacular first downs to move the chains at other times. Give me a guy who has more rhythm with the receivers.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:58 pm to TigerFanPA
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Disagree. It would be foolish to take a chance on JD
Take a chance???
Most likely you were one of those believing we'd go 8-4 or so. JD5 delivered wins over Bama and Ole Miss + SEC Championship game!
Seriously? Take a chance?
Dumkopf!
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:15 pm to beauchristopher
You keep saying “some Int”
If Nuss only threw some, I think He would start.
The problem is he throws a lot.
If he can cut back on it I think he would pull ahead of Daniels
If Daniels starts throwing down field
It’s not close
If Nuss only threw some, I think He would start.
The problem is he throws a lot.
If he can cut back on it I think he would pull ahead of Daniels
If Daniels starts throwing down field
It’s not close
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:29 pm to Giantkiller
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JD is so far ahead of everyone and it’s not even close.
This.
1) Howard cannot be evaluated. He hasn’t played a down. So it’s impossible to say what we would “lose” if he transferred.
2) “Nuss” made no real contribution this year. He was ineffective at best and a liability at worst. No sensible coach would start him unless he was your only option. So, if he transferred? No loss.
3)JD carried this team on offense. He willed it down the field on more than one occasion and gave us what little hope we had against UGA. His departure , for any reason, will be a severe setback. Leaving this offense in the hands of either an incompetent or inexperienced QB. Not a good thing.
It’s embarrassing to read posters saying that we should sacrifice 4-5 games so “Nuss” can learn what JD already knows: how to protect the football and score. Final query: what if the coaches do what these posters want but “Nuss” doesn’t improve? Suppose you get what you see? We’re screwed.
Simply put, there is no real comparison among these quarterbacks. Daniels is far and away the best in that room. It cannot be debated intelligently.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:52 pm to deuce985
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You don't know enough about Nuss flaws to say otherwise. Both open a game up differently. JD can still progress no matter how many years he has been in NCAA.
I have a sample size of 13 on JD and I know what he has in his toolchest. As I have said in recent posts, BK needs to tell his QB Room that the starter next year is the one who can stretch the field and sustain drives. Frankly, I dont think JD can get his reaction speed up enough to improve his midrange and long ball game.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:55 pm to The Boat
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My dream one day is sportswriters figure out no one cares what they think
As opposed to posters on the Rant?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:07 pm to DBG
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National champ, Heisman winner Jameis Winston?
No. Last place NFC South and 2nd string QB Jaemis Winston.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:08 pm to StevieG504
quote:it’s not a tough decision. Jd will start
Yeah this is truly BKs first big decision at LSU where fans are split.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:13 pm to GetmorewithLes
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I have a sample size of 13 on JD and I know what he has in his toolchest.
Enough to beat Bama and win the SEC West. There isn’t one loss that can be blamed on Daniels. They gave up 38+ in 3 of the 4 losses. In the FSU game the defense couldn’t get the Noles off the field and special teams dropped 4 points on blocked kicks. The offense was efficient with the meager 7 possessions they had. It only makes sense to kick Daniels to the curb if you expect the defense to struggle again.
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