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re: lsusports.net jefferson 4 heisman push begins....
Posted on 6/15/11 at 9:55 am to LouisianaLonghorn
Posted on 6/15/11 at 9:55 am to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:Spot on...unfortunately
i think JJ is going to surprise quite a few people this year.
I agree, unfortunately I think it won't be a good surprise.
Rather people will be surprised that even with a new OC who is a QB specialist, and 3 years in the system, he will not be any better...yet he will continue to be the starter.
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:00 am to BigEdLSU
LSU played Mississippi State on a Thursday night 4 years ago too. Lock it up...CHAMPIONSHIP.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:03 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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Rather people will be surprised that even with a new OC who is a QB specialist, and 3 years in the system, he will not be any better...yet he will continue to be the starter.
what made you come to this conclusion?
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:08 am to JJ27
JJ... I thought you would have learned by now to find another poster to attack... If you want to talk about illogical opinions, how about yours last season that Ware wasn't impressive?
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:11 am to BigEdLSU
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how about yours last season that Ware wasn't impressive?
When did I say this? Honestly, I don't remember that at all. I remember saying Ford was a monster, but don't remember saying anything about Ware. Definitely could have happened though pre-bowl game.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:13 am to BigEdLSU
JJ...... you said Ware wasn't impressive.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:21 am to Franktowntiger7
I can't vote for JJ and look at myself in the mirror later. 
I hope I'm wrong!
I hope I'm wrong!
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:36 am to JJ27
Not here to get in a pissing contest with you. It was pre-bowl, During a Magee discussion. Really doesn't matter. I don't mind an opinion like yours. You expect JJ to fail. It's ok. I expect him to succeed.
I would hope we can agree on this: I hope JJ has a great senior year.
I would hope we can agree on this: I hope JJ has a great senior year.
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:41 am to Choctaw
quote:
what made you come to this conclusion?
Based on what I've seen from him over the past 2 seasons. What makes you think he's gonna suddenly turn the corner and become an above-average, or even average QB after 2 seasons of sub-par play?
JJ has all the physical tools needed to be a good QB. Unfortunately, it's the mental aspect that seems to be lacking....and I'm not saying he's stupid. I mean that he can't read a defense any better now than he could 2 years ago. He still locks onto his primary receiver and waits way to late to deliver the ball time and time again. His ability to run is really his only asset. He's not a leader on the field and he still makes excuses for poor play, blaming it on his teammates or the coaching staff. He doesn't seem to realize that he's the problem.
Sure, there is a remote chance that the kid pulls a Jason Campbell and gets his act together for his senior season, but I'm not buying the hype that Miles is selling until I see improvement on the field.
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:42 am to Rebel
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i think JJ is going to surprise quite a few people this year.
While I think the Heisman is ridiculous, I have been saying the same thing the past few weeks. I have not seen the players as confident in their QB in a long time. As a long-time critic of JJ, I am fully behind the kid if the players are as well.
On that same token, I can also confidently say that Mett is not going to play QB unless JJ AND JL get hurt. According to multiple players, Mett is a distant 3rd string QB at this time. However, in an effort to keep the "We want Mett" crowd off of my back, I can say that the players recognize his talent ceiling is higher than both JJ and JL's, but he has/needs to learn the position this year and take over next year.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:48 am to slackster
quote:
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn on 6/15 at 10:41 am to Choctaw quote: what made you come to this conclusion? Based on what I've seen from him over the past 2 seasons. What makes you think he's gonna suddenly turn the corner and become an above-average, or even average QB after 2 seasons of sub-par play? JJ has all the physical tools needed to be a good QB. Unfortunately, it's the mental aspect that seems to be lacking....and I'm not saying he's stupid. I mean that he can't read a defense any better now than he could 2 years ago. He still locks onto his primary receiver and waits way to late to deliver the ball time and time again. His ability to run is really his only asset. He's not a leader on the field and he still makes excuses for poor play, blaming it on his teammates or the coaching staff. He doesn't seem to realize that he's the problem. Sure, there is a remote chance that the kid pulls a Jason Campbell and gets his act together for his season season, but I'm not buying the hype that Miles is selling until I see improvement on the field. Post Reply • Back to Top
Did you just use logic there? Holy Cow!
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:54 am to Franktowntiger7
He first Heisman moment was against McNesse last year. His 28 total yards put him as the frontrunner.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 10:55 am to CP3LSU25
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According to multiple players, Mett is a distant 3rd string QB at this time.
False. That's a lie
Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:06 am to BigEdLSU
quote:
You expect JJ to fail.
No, I really don't. You know 90% of the stuff I post on the rant is to stir the pot right?
I've said multiple times that JJ will start every game this year and I expect improvement. I even said in this very thread that I expect JJ to average 250 total yards per game this year and lead LSU on a great run. I was saying last year that he would be LSU's Jason Campbell. I honestly believe he will combine the rushing of 2010 with the passing of 2009 and have a great year. I don't think he'll be a Heisman contender due to teh offense LSU will run though.Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:20 am to blackjackjackson
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so, the heisman campaign is beginning w/ espn help.
can the rant squash it?
Just wow!
Is he banging your mom or something?
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:11 pm to Mayhawman
quote:
I've said this until I'm blue in the face. If you expect him to suck, that's cool, don't blame ya, just stay off the bandwagon if he leads us to a W over the ducks.
Um if ur going to direct that my way you might want to actually read my posts. I have said multiple times on here I think JJ will play decent against Oregon and based on the way JJ grades his play probably outstanding on the JJ scale. About the only thing he has shown he can do consistently is actually learn a game plan and execute it if given two or more weeks to digest it. My fear is as usual we play the majority of our games with only a week in between and in the following games JJ is JJ and the Tigers suffer for it.
Also if pointing out JJ's stats and quotes are a spoiled brat then I am a spoiled brat. Sorry for resorting for facts and logic to prove a point. I probably confused you. Would it be better if I said despite being the worst starting qb in the SEC and one of the worst in the country I feel that JJ will magically improve and transform into a competent qb??????????
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:20 pm to Rudy40
Rudy, I could lap you easily in an argument over JJ. To rehash basic reading comprehension, that quote is a post of mine to JJ27.
My quote to you was "spoiled brat" and "whiney bitch"
My quote to you was "spoiled brat" and "whiney bitch"
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:26 pm to BigEdLSU
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Rudy, I could lap you easily in an argument over JJ.
Give it your best shot sweetie!
quote:
My quote to you was "spoiled brat" and "whiney bitch"
Again if posting JJ's numbers and quotes make me a spoiled brat and whiny bitch then I guess I am/ Sorry the facts are what they are but feel free to try and convince me your son/nephew is a good qb Mr Jefferson.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:36 pm to Rudy40
You think you are a qb expert huh Rudy? Let's play a game. A game to see who is full of shite.
Do you know anything about qb mechanics? What were his weak points? What was wrong with his footwork? Arm movement?
And if you can answer that, tell me please, what difference have you seen in the spring?
But I know your answer already.... He doesn't look off primary recievers, he doesn't know how to read a defense....
So please tell me, what passing concepts were we running last year? What is different about them this year?
Maybe you should actually learn the qb position before you judge it so harshly.
And before you start off on the same tired stats from last year, let me AGAIN tell you that we all know last year was sub-par. I never said it was satisfactory. But I can see the mechanics Improving, I can see the offensive system improving, and guess what, I think JJ will Improve.
Again, last years passing stats don't answer the mechanics question, the footwork, the concepts.
When school let's back in are you going to stop posting?
Do you know anything about qb mechanics? What were his weak points? What was wrong with his footwork? Arm movement?
And if you can answer that, tell me please, what difference have you seen in the spring?
But I know your answer already.... He doesn't look off primary recievers, he doesn't know how to read a defense....
So please tell me, what passing concepts were we running last year? What is different about them this year?
Maybe you should actually learn the qb position before you judge it so harshly.
And before you start off on the same tired stats from last year, let me AGAIN tell you that we all know last year was sub-par. I never said it was satisfactory. But I can see the mechanics Improving, I can see the offensive system improving, and guess what, I think JJ will Improve.
Again, last years passing stats don't answer the mechanics question, the footwork, the concepts.
When school let's back in are you going to stop posting?
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:37 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:
What makes you think he's gonna suddenly turn the corner and become an above-average, or even average QB after 2 seasons of sub-par play?
2009: 2,166 Yds, 17 TD, 7 INT, 137.2 Rating, 61.5% Cmp.
2007: 2,407 Yds, 21 TD, 11 INT, 125.8 Rating, 56.3% Cmp.
He's not that far off of Matt Flynn who we lead us to a championship. His 2010 stats are terrible and no one can save face on those.
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