re: LSU USC 1979 False Start on Facemask Play

Thanks, now shut the hell up about your facemask Strange part of that play is that the two offensive linemen that moved early wound up double teaming Benji (the guy who was called for the facemask.) Without that early movement, Benji might have killed Mcdonald in the backfield.

That call was the biggest rip off ever by an official. LSU won that game, the official just didn't want it to happen, for what ever reason.

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Vince Young's knee was clearly down in the 2006 Rose Bowl, but you don't hear me bitching about it.

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You just did.

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Myth is fact, play should mave been stopped. Damn Tangerine, fou look like a fool

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Facemask still stil a myth. The lore through the years is that Benji did not grab or get his fingers in the mask, but just bareyly brushed it, if even that. Not sure how this makes me look bad, as I have stated numerous times that I did not dispute nor support any movement, b/c I did not see it.

Move on now.

Wow!

Look how much progress we are making. There was movement on the line. There was a face mask penalty. The facemask was called. The Procedure was not.

Either way, most LSU fans fondly remember a very game effort from an outmanned LSU football team that made them proud to be LSU fans.

GO TIGERS

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Aren't you the one that re-started this whole thing?

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ACtually no. It was brought up repeatedly in the In Never Rains in Tiger stadium thread and I responded. Based on the number of responses, the topic obviously deserved a thread of its own.

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the topic obviously deserved a thread of its own.

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Obviously.

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This sounds kinda Hokie to me.
Can you post a link? We have plenty of time, it's a long off-season.

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It's widely known by knowledgeable LSU football fans that USC FB Ricky Johnson came off the bench without his helmet to tackle LSU QB Woodley. It wasn't flagged.

The incident is recounted on page 364 of "50 Years of College Football":

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Scroll to page 364. It is in the column on the right under the games played on September 29, 1979.

As for LSUTANGERINE, you can now clearly see that the play should have been called dead on the false start, which would have lead to a 3rd and 14 that USC would have been hard pressed to convert under those circumstances in that atmosphere.

So, uh, "KABOOM." Dork.

And by the way, if you had bothered to actually read a book or two on college football rather than mindlessly trolling the internet, you would have known that Benji Thibodeaux already conceded, long ago, that his hand was on the facemask of McDonald. On page 22 of "Game of My Life," he states:

"When I reached out to grab him, his head moved and MY HAND GRAZED HIS FACEMASK." (emphasis added)

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Your video (which many of us had already seen - it isn't some revelatory, newly discovered Rosetta Stone) confirms that his hand was on the mask. But the critical question, the only question that mattters, the only question that has mattered for thirty years is: did he graze or did he grasp? The 1979 facemask rule (which didn't distinguish between incidental and major facemask penalties) stated that a penalty only occured if a player "grasped" the facemask.

In any event, your arrogant post was distasteful and clearly evidenced that you didn't fully appreciate the long history of the debate.

Noone on here was talking about it until LSUTangerine (USC) brought it up.