re: LSU USC 1979 False Start on Facemask Play

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So, uh, "KABOOM." Dork.

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Kaboom does not apply to me. I did not dispute the false start, like thousands of LSU fans who claimed Benji did not get the mask.

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And by the way, if you had bothered to actually read a book or two on college football rather than mindlessly trolling the internet, you would have known that Benji Thibodeaux already conceded, long ago, that his hand was on the facemask of McDonald. On page 22 of "Game of My Life," he states:

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You need to tell that to the many LSU fans who believe it never occurred.

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But the critical question, the only question that mattters, the only question that has mattered for thirty years is: did he graze or did he grasp? The 1979 facemask rule (which didn't distinguish between incidental and major facemask penalties) stated that a penalty only occured if a player "grasped" the facemask.

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The vid also answers that question. Simple laws of physics would indicate that if a player is moving in one direction, a graze, brush, or whatever would not cause his head to suddenly move in the opposite direction in an awkward manner. WHile I doubt Benji grabbed the mask intentionally, his fingers obviously got caught in the mask causing the movement. Benji can oncede all he wants that he grazed it. He was in the heat of the battle and likely thought he did just that. What he failed to state or recall is that his fingers must have gotten caught in the mask, albeit for a brief moment.

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In any event, your arrogant post was distasteful and clearly evidenced that you didn't fully appreciate the long history of the debate.

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I certainly appreciate the history of the debate. I just do not agree with it-nor does the video-taped evidence.

The work I was doing on the 1915 team entailed listing everyone I could find who went out for the team, lettermen, Baby Tiger team, etc...

I found 4 things so far about the 1915 team that have to be corrected in Taylor's book and the LSU media guide and 2 other items I have to track down.

LSU depended on Taylor's work on the early years and he has many facts wrong on near every year even into the 1930's.

But as H.W. said his work was a base to start from and would be added too in the future.

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Also they could have thrown a flag for grounding, McDonald throw the ball to a tackle (68)and no back, te or wr is near him.

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yeah, the no call on the intentional grounding by McDonald has always gotten overlooked.

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bet if it had happened on the game winning drive like this did we would have heard you in Katmandu.

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IMO, not really. SC was called for an facemask on UT's game winning drive on a 3rd or 4th down. Really has not come up since.

H. Warren Taylor

Forty-two Years on the Tiger Gridiron

Published in 1936 and a 2nd edition was printed in 1974.

Yes I'm working on a book about the 1908 season, but need 5 weeks off to finish it to visit Vanderbilt, Auburn, Tulane and LSU.

That means it may take 3 years, God willing.

Your book about your trials you've experienced in your love life with John Brady is much cheaper.

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Noone on here was talking about it until LSUTangerine (USC) brought it up.

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bullshite.

P.S. So, uh, "KABOOM." Dork.

Seriously?

Does the book have much info on the 1915 and 1916 teams? Could you post a recap of what it says? Thanks!

Do all teams fans do this? Gripe about bad calls years after the fact?

Do Hurricane fans still bitch about the phantom pass interference call that prolonged the BCSNCG against tOSU?