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Let's say Miles keeps the offense the same.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:06 am
After reading that interview a few days ago it seems as though Miles really believes that without the key injuries his offense is completely serviceable. Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:07 am to Brazos
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Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
I do
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:08 am to Brazos
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Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
Sure.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:10 am to Brazos
Yeah, I think it's possible. I think people are forgetting how porous our D looked at times last season. I trust Aranda to clean that up.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:11 am to Brazos
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Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
Yes.
We bring everyone back. They will only improve in the same system. If the QB, WRs, and TEs make just a few more plays a game to help an improved Guice and absurd Fournette, that should be enough to win any game with our expected level of defense.
If ST and D are much improved, offense is slightly improved and doesn't turn it over, we should/could win every game we play.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:14 am to Brazos
quote:Maybe, but I doubt it. Harris (and the O-line) needs more passing reps - period.
win the SEC
quote:Certainly. We have way too much talent not to. Aranda's defense will probably win us at least a game or two as well.
we still pose a threat
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:15 am to Brazos
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Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
No.
The last time LSU won in 07 they fielded a balance offense -- almost 1 to 1 passing to run ratio. The last 12 NCAA champions have had near similar stats of a 1 to 1 ratio with the exception of AU and Cam Newton and FSU with Winston.
Cam and Winston were both Heisman winners and are currently NFL QB's -- with Cam being the recent NFL MVP.
In my opinion, I think if LSU averages 225 passing/220 Rushing -- they are in the playoffs with a chance to win it all. We field, like last year, 170 passing/230 rushing -- we lose 2 games.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:16 am to Brazos
College players get significantly better with added experience.
Freshmen become sophomores, sophomores become juniors, etc.
So, yes, the offense almost has to improve even without any changes.
Freshmen become sophomores, sophomores become juniors, etc.
So, yes, the offense almost has to improve even without any changes.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:17 am to Brazos
Keeping the same offense wasn't ever the issue... it was the lack to deviate from the same plan against well-prepared teams like Bama, Ole Miss and Arkansas.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:19 am to Brazos
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Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
Absolutely yes and if Harris improves I could see them having an offense like they did in 2013 with more options on the outside and with a better defense. You have fournette so you give him the ball 20-30 times and big games go 40. The rest of the time you have a lot of weapons to get the ball to. They don't need to be creative with playcalling. They need to be more creative with play design pre snap. More formations and more motions and shifts and you can still be a power team running the same plays just with different looks.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:21 am to Tiger Khan
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In my opinion, I think if LSU averages 225 passing/220 Rushing -- they are in the playoffs with a chance to win it all. We field, like last year, 170 passing/230 rushing -- we lose 2 games.
so, as the OP stated, if we hit a few more passes we should be good?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:23 am to Salmon
I don't think a few more passes beats Bama. Maybe everyone else.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:24 am to Brazos
Sure, like we saw in the bowl game and with a much improved Harris and we could be competitive in the SEC west. We shouldn't install a completely different offense with different terminology and completely different plays. Would be to much to do and isn't necessary. Everything we need to do is already in the playbook or close to it. I mean I'm sure they are always trying to update and make improvements where they need to.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:25 am to Salmon
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so, as the OP stated, if we hit a few more passes we should be good?
Yes. :]
I just re-read that part "if we hit a few more passes".
This is where the debate starts though. Is it lack of execution in the passing game due to talent, or lack of execution due to the scheme/lack of development/lack of reps?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:27 am to Brazos
I do, but the bigger question is how bad will the melt on the Rant be?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:27 am to Brazos
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Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
Yes
But this is with the assumption that we see substantial improvement on defense with Aranda
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:27 am to Brazos
QB play was pretty good until Harris got hurt and we had some oline issues.
So yea, I do. But I read the interview, and I don't agree with your take on it. Anyone who expected LSU to run a HUNH 4 wide receiver spread is delusional. There is nothing wrong with our actual offensive sets. There is an issue of trust and being conservative.
You can pick up the pace and even air it out without changing our identity
So yea, I do. But I read the interview, and I don't agree with your take on it. Anyone who expected LSU to run a HUNH 4 wide receiver spread is delusional. There is nothing wrong with our actual offensive sets. There is an issue of trust and being conservative.
You can pick up the pace and even air it out without changing our identity
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:29 am to jtran1988
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Keeping the same offense wasn't ever the issue... it was the lack to deviate from the same plan against well-prepared teams like Bama, Ole Miss and Arkansas.
Before Ole Miss and Arkansas, the LSU offense was a special kind of awful.
Even the blandest NFL offenses implement some measure of misdirection. LSU, prior to the last few games of the year, did not. No screens, counters, toss-sweeps, reverses, gadget plays... just straight ahead, run-run-throw it deep.
LSU doesn't need to have the '08 Saints playbook, they just need to utilize plays that every other team on Earth, including High School teams, use.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:31 am to Brazos
Until we can beat Bama, we won't threaten them. We'll have to depend on other teams knocking Bama out of the mix, and then LSU being in position to take advantage.
Cam's offense has scored 17, 17, 13, and 16 against them with this offense. I just don't see the same system getting us over that hump, regardless of the number of injuries and level of experience.
Cam's offense has scored 17, 17, 13, and 16 against them with this offense. I just don't see the same system getting us over that hump, regardless of the number of injuries and level of experience.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:31 am to jtran1988
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Keeping the same offense wasn't ever the issue... it was the lack to deviate from the same plan against well-prepared teams like Bama, Ole Miss and Arkansas.
I agree somewhat, but experience gives coaches more confidence to switch gameplans on a dime.
They might not have trusted the offense to pivot to a new gameplan mid-game.
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