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Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:34 am to crownNbull
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There are really only like 3 good coaches in the NCAA if you read this board...
Please start naming coaches whose coaching philosophies could come to LSU and accomplish what he has done. Some coaches besides Saban and Miles have had success but look what happens when they lose freakish players like Tebow and Cam. A&M has had success but only b/c of Manziel. Chip Kelly is a great coach but no way would that style work in the SEC. There are coaches who would be able to come in and win games and score points but the point is to at least be in a position to win NC's. Les has done that here. Had it not been for the system, LSU would've been in a BCS game this season. That's 4 of the 8 years he's been here with 2 of those being title games. That's pretty damn impressive for being in the toughest division in college football.
The sarcasm meter must be broken on the rants today
Posted on 1/1/13 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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urban meyer won 2 national titles and almost a 3rd with that offense auburn won a national title with that offense
Read the whole thing....
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Some coaches besides Saban and Miles have had success but look what happens when they lose freakish players like Tebow and Cam. A&M has had success but only b/c of Manziel.
And as far as the system with automatic qualifiers having teams like Northern Illinois, Louisville, and Wisconsin playing in BCS games. LSU should've been playing in a BCS game.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:16 pm to shel311
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This is a flatout lie and you know it.
no its not. you're just in denial
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"most" LOL.
yes. most of the non-conference teams LSU has played under Miles have been pitiful football programs/teams.
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At least bring facts to the table man.
here ya go -
Non-Conference Teams Played since 2005 in order (under Miles)
Cakewalk's are noted with (*)
Arizona State
North Texas *
Appalachian State *
Miami
UL-Lafayette *
Arizona *
Tulane *
Fresno State *
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
Middle Tennessee *
Tulane *
Louisiana Tech *
Ohio State
Appalachian State *
North Texas *
Tulane *
Troy *
Georgia Tech
Washington * (5-7 team that year)
UL-Lafayette *
Tulane *
Louisiana Tech *
Penn State
North Carolina
West Virginia
McNeese State *
UL-Monroe *
Texas A&M (non SEC at the time)
Oregon
Northwestern State *
West Virginia
Western Kentucky *
North Texas *
Washington * (7-6, overrated Pac-12 team)
Idaho *
Towson *
Clemson
so if you do the math, 25 out of 38 is "most" just like I said. that's roughly 66%. the overwhelming majority.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:18 pm to Weebie
quote:what a bunch of b.s., he left a three loss team.
Saban wasn't fired. he left a national championship ready, stacked program for the NFL.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:23 pm to purplepylon
quote:I'm in the wrong line of work. I make less than a fraction of that and when I make a mistake, I get chewed the hell out. Miles gets a contract extension.
4.5 million
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:24 pm to shel311
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If it's not a national title game, yes.
Who would disagree with that? Are you even being serious with that question?
You're getting destroyed in this thread, how many times will you shift the line and change your argument?
Posted Miles's record, you claim MOST were against scrubs, which is a lie.
Posted Miles's SEC record, you claim bowl games are more important.
Time to wave that white flag man, this thread didn't go the way you hoped it would.
not true in anyway, shape, or form. I posted Miles's bowl record. then someone else posted his regular season records to try and defend his pitiful bowl record. I asked if regular season means more to them than bowl records and they said yes. that is not changing an argument. pay attention.
personally I would rather win the big games compared to putting up good regular season stats only to shite the bed when it counts. that's just me though.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:33 pm to Weebie
Les was 1-2 with Simmons' recruits at Okie State. Just sayin'...
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:33 pm to Weebie
look guys I want Miles to succeed and have tried to defend him for years now, but he lost me last season. I'm still supporting the team and only wish Miles the best, but his performance in big games have fallen off tremendously in recent years. also with that being said, it is much easier said than done and we are only fans who are going to bitch and moan no matter what lol. I think we can all agree that something needs to change in the offensive play calling.
hope everyone has a safe New Years and here's to 2013
hope everyone has a safe New Years and here's to 2013
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:41 pm to Weebie
Lol@weebie, your argument is ridiculous. In particular the fact that most of Les's wins come from cakewalks... You make it seem like when saban was our coach we played teams USC and Texas for all our OOC games. Put the percentage of his OOC wins that were "cakewalks"
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:44 pm to Weebie
quote:Say what you want - Saban set the table and LM has been eating high on the hog ever since.... and he's out of food now.
Overall Bowl Record without Saban's Recruits
2-5
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:46 pm to GeauxPack81
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In particular the fact that most of Les's wins come from cakewalks... You make it seem like when saban was our coach we played teams USC and Texas for all our OOC games. Put the percentage of his OOC wins that were "cakewalks"
I have never said that
someone said it was a lie that most of Miles's non-conference wins were against scrub teams and that simply isn't true. hence the stats posted above. I also never said or "made it seem" that when Saban was here we played nothing but stacked teams.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:53 pm to Weebie
Explain the SEC records with and without all the saban recruits
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:55 pm to The Mick
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Now do Sabans while at LSU with Dinardos recruits and his own.
People don't understand this. Saban won despite Dinardo's players while Miles won with elite players.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:57 pm to GeauxPack81
Bottom line is Les is a damn good coach, BUT is he a coach who can get LSU another National Title.
And by that I mean, can we expect the best from our coaches and players for 14 games?
I am thinking no. As long as Les is here we will be competitive, good, sometimes great. He almost always has the team prepared. But I don't think he can get it done for 14 games in a season.
And by that I mean, can we expect the best from our coaches and players for 14 games?
I am thinking no. As long as Les is here we will be competitive, good, sometimes great. He almost always has the team prepared. But I don't think he can get it done for 14 games in a season.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:00 pm to GeauxPack81
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Explain the SEC records with and without all the saban recruits
dude you're getting too worked up over this
I have never once said anything negative about the fact that Miles's has put up good regular season numbers in the SEC. I posted his overall bowl record last night in the more sports board particularly because several people were talking about how "outstanding" he is in bowl games. which simply isn't true. that's the topic of this thread.
The only reason his non-conference games were brought up is because someone claimed that it was a lie that most of them were against bad teams.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:27 pm to TigersSEC2010
The Chicken Bowl matters?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 7:28 pm to Weebie
Excluding bowl games, Miles was 2-0 against ranked out of conference teams "with" Saban players and 4-0 with his own. All teams play cake walk games.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:09 pm to JabarkusRussell
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People don't understand this. Saban won despite Dinardo's players while Miles won with elite players.
Yea, you're right. All those players on the 2003 team were fricking terrible. How on earth did we ever win any games with the likes of marcus spears, corey webster, laron landry, michael clayton, skyler green, joseph addai, etc. Get the frick out of here. You can't say that Saban rebuilt the LSU program, but did it with bad players. That is just fricking retarded.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:26 pm to LooseCannon22282
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Miles is a goof but if Mett had completed that pass on 2nd down and two, they would have run out the clock. Its not always about him but I can understand why some of the LSU fans have been pissed at him for awhile.
Problem is he sits on leads. We should have never been in that situation.
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