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Les Miles "hands on OC" ....lets close this topic
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:58 pm
I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?
If you look at Crowton and Cam we ran different styles. We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.
So while I am frustrated I wonder where the proof is to state that Les Miles strangles this offense. If anything from he look of things (tv, radio, etc) it seems totally opposite, Les is waaaaaay too hands off and covers for his asst.
So again, how do y'all know it's Les and not Cam?
If you look at Crowton and Cam we ran different styles. We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.
So while I am frustrated I wonder where the proof is to state that Les Miles strangles this offense. If anything from he look of things (tv, radio, etc) it seems totally opposite, Les is waaaaaay too hands off and covers for his asst.
So again, how do y'all know it's Les and not Cam?
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to Roux-Roux
I think its pretty obvious that Les has an offensive philosophy and holds his OCs to that philosophy, but then again, what HC doesn't do this?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to Roux-Roux
It's Miles' Philosophy..he might as well just call the plays. After Crowton it's become a puppet position.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to Roux-Roux
Closed.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to Roux-Roux
which reality is easier for you to accept.....
1. This is the Les Miles offense.
2. Miles is incapable of hiring an OC worth a shite.
is either answer good?
1. This is the Les Miles offense.
2. Miles is incapable of hiring an OC worth a shite.
is either answer good?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:01 pm to Roux-Roux
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We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.
We ran some spread formations. I wouldn't call our offense a spread offense in 2007.
Hell, we've ran spread formations the past few years too
It really isn't about the overall formations or styles either. It is more about playing it safe and not taking any chances with quick routes over the middle after 2008. We saw a glimpse of it on the drive before halftime and it was beautiful
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:01 pm to Roux-Roux
I do believe that he has his hands in the offense and dictates pace of play as well of some other major strategic factors. He tells Cam his agenda and Cam rolls with it.
ETA: we tried to run a lot of spread type formations Saturday.
ETA: we tried to run a lot of spread type formations Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm to Roux-Roux
How many OCs have we had under Miles?
Youre a bit early for this, pumper excuse schedule doesn't have this one set for release until Tuesday.
Youre a bit early for this, pumper excuse schedule doesn't have this one set for release until Tuesday.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm to Roux-Roux
D Luge' a Nul you are.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:05 pm to Roux-Roux
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Let's clos this topic.
You probably shouldn't be the one to be "closing topics." No offense.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:06 pm to Roux-Roux
Les Miles lets his quarterbacks make the throws when he trusts his quarterback to make the throws and hamstrings them when he doesn't so they don't make a stupid mistake.
That's the reason that the Russell/Flynn/Mett offenses look so different from the Jefferson/Lee/Jennings offenses.
That's the reason that the Russell/Flynn/Mett offenses look so different from the Jefferson/Lee/Jennings offenses.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:09 pm to TigerBait1127
TigerBait1127
Why did we not run that the rest of the game? What coach could not see how comfortable Harris was with the quick pass?
Disappointed yet again, stop what works and try something that doesn't
quote:
We saw a glimpse of in on the drive before half time and it was beautiful
Why did we not run that the rest of the game? What coach could not see how comfortable Harris was with the quick pass?
Disappointed yet again, stop what works and try something that doesn't
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:13 pm to Roux-Roux
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Where is the proof
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:14 pm to chilge1
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Les Miles lets his quarterbacks make the throws when he trusts his quarterback to make the throws and hamstrings them when he doesn't so they don't make a stupid mistake. That's the reason that the Russell/Flynn/Mett offenses look so different from the Jefferson/Lee/Jennings offenses.
The offense still looked clunky and confused at times with Mettenberger was under center. We just had better/ more experienced playmakers.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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It is more about playing it safe and not taking any chances with quick routes over the middle after 2008.
Miles still has Post Pick-6 Stress Disorder.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:16 pm to Roux-Roux
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Where is the proof. Who is in the know?
I had a grad assistant tell me this a few years ago.
He was speaking specifically about the final drive of the 2012 Alabama game (regular season, not NC).
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:19 pm to Roux-Roux
I know when Cameron first got here one of the things he wanted to remove from the offense was the toss
His philosophy is that it didn't help set up play action
If you're tossing the ball to the back and then going play action with the hand off then who are you really fooling?
Yet despite this philosophical statement from Cam it's still a staple in the offense. Miles may not be calling plays but he has his hands on the offense in some capacity.
His philosophy is that it didn't help set up play action
If you're tossing the ball to the back and then going play action with the hand off then who are you really fooling?
Yet despite this philosophical statement from Cam it's still a staple in the offense. Miles may not be calling plays but he has his hands on the offense in some capacity.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:20 pm to chilge1
That river...
in Egypt...
you're in it.
in Egypt...
you're in it.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:47 pm to KingBeingking
quote:
I do believe that he has his hands in the offense and dictates pace of play as well of some other major strategic factors. He tells Cam his agenda and Cam rolls with it.
ETA: we tried to run a lot of spread type formations Saturday.
Even Cam had to ask permission to run the flea flicker against Florida.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:51 pm to Roux-Roux
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We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.
We had to rotate fullbacks so we didn't wear them out in 2007.
We didn't run "spread".
This is the same offense since Leslie has been here. If you take off those purple glasses, you might be able to see better.
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