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re: Les Miles "hands on OC" ....lets close this topic
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:53 pm to chilge1
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:53 pm to chilge1
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Les Miles lets his quarterbacks make the throws when he trusts his quarterback to make the throws and hamstrings them when he doesn't so they don't make a stupid mistake.
Miles is deathly afraid of passing at times, especially over the middle of the field, and I think that's why you see the QBs so scared to pull the trigger or go through their progressions.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:53 pm to Roux-Roux
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I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?
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Last year I did a show for the troops at Fort Polk, Louisiana. And it was a lot of fun. But you didn't have to be in the military to be at this show. There were civilians there too. And I was talking about the base, and I mentioned because I toured it that day and had just learned this, that there were forty thousand men stationed there. And this really well-dressed drunk woman hollers out, "Every one of them is a bad frick." I was like, boy, you know, it seems like after thirty-nine thousand times you'd start to think, "Maybe it's me. Maybe I need to read a book."- Ron White
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:55 pm to Roux-Roux
1. people refuse to believe we ran a different offense under Crowton and Jimbo.
2. People always forget how bad our OC situation was when we hired Kragthrope and he was diagnosed with Parkinsons. Stud was a spread coach trying to call pro style plays.
3. People forget that sometimes offenses look terrible. That hold especially true for spread teams.
2. People always forget how bad our OC situation was when we hired Kragthrope and he was diagnosed with Parkinsons. Stud was a spread coach trying to call pro style plays.
3. People forget that sometimes offenses look terrible. That hold especially true for spread teams.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:44 am to Roux-Roux
if you look at the stats of Les miles OC at Okie State and then look at the stats now...you would def agree he has his hands all up in the koolaid
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:52 am to TigerStripes30
Everything changed for Miles after JL and all the pick 6s
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:04 am to say when
Bull shite we ran a shite ton of 1 back pistol. U need to put those glasses u speak of back on
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:05 am to Roux-Roux
We've been running the same plays for 7 years
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:17 am to CptBengal
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CptBengal
well look who decided to make his way back to the tRant. interesting how you were no where to be found the first 8 weeks of the season
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:34 am
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:24 am to Choctaw
Lol wow! All we need is Tigerlee and we would be back to shithole Normal
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:33 am to HMTVBrian2
quote:Not much deep PA pass prior to 2010.
We've been running the same plays for 7 years
Gone are Crowton's numerous pkg concepts.
Speed option seems to be gone.
I don't recall Power Toss before '10.
Very little read option that was used extensively '10 and '11, and surely doesn't looked repped enough when run.
That's just off the top of my head and sure there's other examples.
If you know football, you know the O has been changing over the seasons....not to say Miles had no influence, as he's driving the bus.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:34 am to Choctaw
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well look who decided to make his way back to the tRant. interesting how you were no where to be found the first 8 weeks of the season
So true. Thought we had for the most part rid this place of the infestation of all those of his ilk, like TigrLee, BRAVEHEART (since returned as alter simjackass) Bunker, and the rest of those who have come and gone on this board over the years, spouting there biased hate-filled BS.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:37 am to Roux-Roux
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I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?
Actually, this is proof you have not watched LSU since Les Miles came into power. I'm sorry that you can't accept common knowledge, but its pretty damn obvious.
Hanagriff has said it, other coaches have alluded to it, there was an article on Mike Gundy and Josh Henson at Ok. St. where they specifically talked about how they would express their desires to run a spread play, but Miles wanted the two TE's and FB. I have posted this article MULTIPLE times on here. Im disappointed no one reads it, and would rather make shite up.
Here's your sign
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“We had a lot of discussions of what he and I thought would be productive some day in college football that would go on deaf ears with Les because it didn’t involve two tight ends and a fullback,” Gundy said, chuckling. “We joke about that now.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:39 am to Mayhawman
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If you know football, you know the O has been changing over the seasons....not to say Miles had no influence, as he's driving the bus.
But its always had the same general philosophy.
Go back and look at the Hester first downs against Florida....
The offense after Matt Flynn and year 1 of Jarrett Lee was an "avoid-the-pass-at-all-costs" offense.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:41 am to Roux-Roux
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We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.
Get a clue. Not even close.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:42 am to Roux-Roux
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So while I am frustrated I wonder where the proof is to state that Les Miles strangles this offense.
You aren't going to find a smoking gun on this no matter how hard you look. But in all the important circles it's known that Miles is the reason the offense looks the same coordinator after coordinator. It was widely known that Fisher was extremely frustrated with Miles before he left for the very reason you question. Charles Hannagriff had some pretty interesting facts on this during the postgame the other night. Coach Strud actually had pretty good offensive numbers as OC at bowling green, Fisher has won a natty with FSU, Crowton won a natty with LSU, and got strangled when Jarrett Lee started throwing picks. That is were Les took the turn for ultra conservative with exception of Mett's second yr starting. There is little doubt that Kragthorpe would have had any significant difference from previous OC's during the Miles era. We see what Cam's done. 1 productive year, and if you think about that, it was out of necessity because LSU couldn't stop anyone that year, you had 2 stud recievers and a stud QB.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:52 am to Kracka
miles still sees jl throwing pick 6 in his dreams. he is not going to let that happen again. if/ when we get a qb that can perform in the sec then miles will change the o. with lf in the back field no one in his right mind would have a 50/50 run pass ratio with harris at qb.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:53 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:Your disappointment clouds your memory. 2012, 2013 were in line with '05, '06 and '09 in attempts.
But its always had the same general philosophy. The offense after Matt Flynn and year 1 of Jarrett Lee was an "avoid-the-pass-at-all-costs" offense.
'07 and '08 were outliers.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:55 am to justustm2
So let's play a little game called past stats.
Crowton
La Tech from 96-98
Pass attempts per game = 46
Pass yards per game = 378 (including 432 in 98)
LSU from 07-10
Pass attempts per game = 27
Pass yards per game = 190
Stud, you can't look at that shite storm, plus he was a lifetime OL coach.
Cameron
Indiana from 97-01
Pass attempts per game = 27
Pass yards per game = 188
LSU 14 & 15
Pass attempts per game = 20
Pass yards per game = 164
These are two guys who are supposed to be calling the offensive plays and yet both of them drastically changed their numbers with far superior talent to what they had at previous schools.
Just to give you a frame of reference, Kiffin at UT and USC was 34 attempts for 262 yards. Kiffin at Bama, 31 attempts for 248 yards.
This isn't an OC problem. It is a HC problem.
Crowton
La Tech from 96-98
Pass attempts per game = 46
Pass yards per game = 378 (including 432 in 98)
LSU from 07-10
Pass attempts per game = 27
Pass yards per game = 190
Stud, you can't look at that shite storm, plus he was a lifetime OL coach.
Cameron
Indiana from 97-01
Pass attempts per game = 27
Pass yards per game = 188
LSU 14 & 15
Pass attempts per game = 20
Pass yards per game = 164
These are two guys who are supposed to be calling the offensive plays and yet both of them drastically changed their numbers with far superior talent to what they had at previous schools.
Just to give you a frame of reference, Kiffin at UT and USC was 34 attempts for 262 yards. Kiffin at Bama, 31 attempts for 248 yards.
This isn't an OC problem. It is a HC problem.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:55 am to Choctaw
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well look who decided to make his way back to the tRant
As for me, am presently enjoying my nega status.
Having had zero expectations at the beginning of the season, I am in no way disappointed with Les Miles.
His performance thus far has exceeded my wildest expectations.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:03 am to oldschoolgreats
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if/ when we get a qb that can perform in the sec then miles will change the o. with lf in the back field no one in his right mind would have a 50/50 run pass ratio with harris at qb.
We are on our 5th QB since Lee's freshman season. 1 out of those 5 has been consistent. And even Mett had to deal with handing the ball off a lot, and threw the ball to the other team. You can pretty much assure yourself that as long as Les Miles is the HC at LSU, you will never see him completely let go of the reigns and let an OC have complete autonomy in regards to play calling and personel. NEVER.
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