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re: Leadership, and how most of you know nothing about it.

Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36704 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:14 pm to
Just as NONE of us here know what REALLY happened in the Shady's incident, none of us REALLY know what happened/why it happened on Monday (or days before). THAT is why this all needs to stop.

I would NEVER EVER have wanted to be in Miles' shoes .. NEVER EVER.

I think I'm in the "almost accepted" stage.
Posted by ezmny2020
peeing in Curdog's pool again
Member since Nov 2006
3526 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:14 pm to
I am the leader of a FFL. Does that count?
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

tenacious


Your message title is condescending, strike one.
Your first statement is self centered, strike two.
Your audience didn't read half of it thanks to my two previous points, strike three.

Irony, pure and simple.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 1:16 pm
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

some people get to the acceptance stage much faster than others


halftime for me.
Posted by tenacious
Dallas, Texas
Member since Sep 2003
1961 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:18 pm to
Yes, leaders should listen to others and yes they should be willing to change. And, yes, there were a lot of mistakes made on Monday night, and nobody's more broken up about that than Les Miles.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Someone has trouble with comprehension.


Not at all, but seriously only you would read every word of that stupid analogy and comparing it to a struggling offense in the LAST GAME OF THE YEAR!

IT WAS FLAT OUT IGNORANT NOT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT MONDAY NIGHT AFTER 3 QUARTERS OF BLEEDING!

If you or anyone thinks differently, then you know nothing about sports.

SO I ask you, yes or no, dhould LSU have tried something different after 3 qtrs (really much earlier) to try and attain even a glimpse of success?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:21 pm to
tldr


but, the vast majority of Les Bashers are simpltons.....I suppose thats where you went.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1920 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

I am a leader too and you are dead on.


Gonna let you and the OP in on a little secret... if you walk around letting people know you're a "leader" and calling yourself a "leader" and touting the fact that you "know how to lead" and have all these "leadership skills" I got news for you, you aren't a fricking leader. All those people you "lead" laugh at you and want you to stfu.

Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Gonna let you and the OP in on a little secret... if you walk around letting people know you're a "leader" and calling yourself a "leader" and touting the fact that you "know how to lead" and have all these "leadership skills" I got news for you, you aren't a fricking leader. All those people you "lead" laugh at you and want you to stfu.


AH HA!!!! A FOLLOWER SPEAKS!!!
Posted by GeauxFester
Too Far From BR
Member since Dec 2011
996 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:23 pm to
Well Tenacious...I'd pat you on the back for being such a great leader but you own hand is in the way.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76275 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

someone posted yesterday the stages of grief most are still in the anger stage personally im in the acceptance stage some people get to the acceptance stage much faster than others some people will never reach the acceptance stage thats just another thing we have to accept

Thankfully for me, I woke up Tuesday morning cheerful and happy. Hell, I went to bed in a good mood. Having things in life other than football will do that to a person.

Percocet helps, too.
Posted by XKEnut
Member since Jan 2010
1852 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:25 pm to
Are you really Gary Glitter???


LINK
Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6682 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:26 pm to
Thanks for posting this
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

3. The organization is more important than the individual - I know this sounds harsh, but it's absolutely true. The minute you start making decisions to try to please individual interests, the more you'll compromise the organization as a whole. Individuals may not understand it, but the best interests of the organization must be the primary force behind any decision.

So here alone by making JJ the main thing at QB at the expense of the good of the whole team/organization, CLM has FAILED the leadership test. Big time.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:35 pm to
GREAT post

I ran businesses for 20 years, made plenty of great decisions and plenty of terrible ones. Employees,customers, suppliers and competitors didn't understood many of them as they did not have access to all of the information I did.

Employees, fans, and any members of organizations NEVER have all of the information they need to accurately judge whether the leader was right or wrong in the decision. Those bashing Miles have absolutely NO IDEA why he stayed with JJ, wasn't prepared for 'bama's defense, or laid the giant egg he did in this game. I sure don't understand why our offense was so terrible and Miles didn't make the change, BUT I also know I don't have the information necessary to seriously question his judgment.

This doesn't mean we can't question and be unhappy about results, but bashing and insulting Miles and JJ is just childish brings more harm to the organization.

Miles delivered the best season in LSU history and one of the best in college football history. He damn sure well knows what he's doing.

Is Saban a moron because he made terrible calls and preparation against LSU in November? against Florida in the SECC, ULM, UAB, Iowa etc etc.

Had Ok St beat Iowa State, the been hammered by LSU in the BCS, I'd be 99% of the Miles bashers would be wanting to give him a lifetime contract.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:35 pm to
Notice the way the "leader" won't answer the very simple question I posed to him.
Posted by bayoubengal03
Member since Nov 2006
937 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:36 pm to
Your trying to hard
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

leadership in most positions doesnt have to worry about the emotions of millions of people looking in from the outside, which is going on here

those millions of people are in grief

someone posted yesterday the stages of grief

most are still in the anger stage

personally im in the acceptance stage

some people get to the acceptance stage much faster than others

some people will never reach the acceptance stage

thats just another thing we have to accept
Problem. The stages of grief are fluid and as studies have shown, they can recur in kind of random ways. So to say you are at the "acceptance" stage is to simply mean you are at this moment. It does not mean you are there permanently. There is no such thing as a "time clock" on grieving. I'm sure our counselors and shrinks here, as well as pastors, can verify what I just said.
Posted by kevg33
Alexandria
Member since Nov 2004
3247 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:38 pm to
Good post, as you can see,it is wasted here. The anti-Miles clan has been waiting all year, chomping at the bit. They finally get to come out of the woods without looking like complete idiots so here they are.
Posted by bleedpg
Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
Member since Dec 2006
1117 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:39 pm to
Thank u for your post. I agree with you 100 percent.

People need to get over themselves and evaluate why they are so angry when life is too short to take this so seriously.
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