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re: Jus asking... would you have bunted Bregman?

Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:06 am to
Posted by Steamy Ray
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:06 am to
We lead off with Jones instead of Stevenson. Not sure what you're talking about
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:07 am to
Never bunt the three-hole hitter.

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Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:07 am to
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How is anyone second guessing CPM moves in this game.Starting our ace against their superace,pinch hitting after Jones hit a triple.Then pinch running Foster.Well coached and well played game.


Nobody is second-guessing CPM. The question was not "What should CPM have done?" It was "What would you have done?"
Posted by jazzin
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:07 am to
The correct answer is yes. Bunt or Hit and run
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:08 am to
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I know he's the 3 hole hitter etc


This and inning tell me swinging away is not a big deal.

Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:08 am to
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I would have developed laird into a guy who could steal bases. How can someone that fast not be good at stealing bases?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:10 am to
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The correct answer is yes.
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9 posts


Worst 9th post EVER!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:13 am to
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I would have developed laird into a guy who could steal bases. How can someone that fast not be good at stealing bases?

What team do you coach?

Laird is a true freshman. He can't read pitchers.....yet. Half the time he's on first base his first move is back to first when the pitcher starts his motion.

He will learn.
Posted by Fabius
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:14 am to
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How is anyone second guessing CPM moves in this game.Starting our ace againsHow is anyone second guessing CPM moves in this game.Starting our ace against their superace,pinch hitting after Jones hit a triple.Then pinch running Foster.


Starting ace against ace is pretty standard in a three game series unless you want to concede the first game and put your team behind the eight ball. Pinch hitting and pinch running in the later innings of a low scoring game is also pretty standard. Not doing that would be unusual.

In a game that you know is going to be a pitcher's duel, a sac bunt when the lead off hitter gets on base is the percentage play at any point in the game,. In that particular situation, if Bregman bunts the runner over to second, you have Katz and Rhymes coming up with a runner in scoring position. Puts pressure on the pitcher and defense and gives two of your best hitters a chance to drive in a run. That would have been our best scoring opportunity up to that point in the game.

Instead, Bregman hit into a double play and that left Katz hitting with 2 outs, the bases empty and the pitcher able to pitch out of the wind up again without the distraction of a runner on base. Second guessing CPM in that situation is very legitimate.
Posted by fbb
Member since May 2007
2513 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:15 am to
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Laird is a true freshman. He can't read pitchers.....yet. Half the time he's on first base his first move is back to first when the pitcher starts his motion.

He will learn.


Laird also has a natural long stride. He'll have to work on his jump as well as his read. But he'll get there.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:15 am to
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Stevenson


I'm starting to wonder if some of our pitchers hit better than Stevenson. I know he is a great fielder but we don't lose much defensively with Foster replacing him in the starting lineup (Laird moving to center) however we gain a ton of offense. If anything, I think we might be better defensively with Foster bc he is the only OF with a strong arm.

This is the only move of Maineri that I question. Foster's lack of PT.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36349 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:16 am to
I would have made him hit a homer.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:19 am to
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We lead off with Jones instead of Stevenson. Not sure what you're talking about


You are right I was thinking JJ would get on base. I still wasn't a fan of stealing rhymes.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:25 am to
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Second guessing CPM in that situation is very legitimate.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:27 am to
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Didn't hurt anything? I think leading off with McMullen is better than Stevenson


What?

Here's the likely outcomes with stealing rhymes in that situation.

1.) Rhymes is thrown out, jacoby leads off next inning after having 2 strikes
2.) Rhymes is safe, jacoby has a chance for an RBI

Now the likely outcomes without rhymes stealing

1.) Jacoby is put out, Stevenson leads off next inning
2.) Jacoby moves Rhymes into scoring position, leaving an RBI opportunity for Stevenson

Not much risk to steal there
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:34 am to
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What team do you coach? Laird is a true freshman. He can't read pitchers.....yet. Half the time he's on first base his first move is back to first when the pitcher starts his motion. He will learn.


He will? What team do you coach?

I am not a coach but when all you hear about is how fast a guy is from home to first it makes sense that he would be a threat stealing bases. He shouldn't get a huge lead if his first move is back to first. That makes him a non threat to steal. Take a smaller lead and take advantage of your speed. Rhymes isn't fast and he had the base stolen.

Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:43 am to
You dont know nearly as much about baseball as you think you do.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:53 am to
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I would have developed laird into a guy who could steal bases. How can someone that fast not be good at stealing bases?
being fast does not automatically make you a good base runner, especially not a great base stealer. There is so much more that goes into stealing a base than being fast. Laird will steal some bases by the time he leaves LSU.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77579 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:53 am to
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the OP, but people need to chill with the "we won" crap when someone feels like talking strategy. It can be fun if some can remove the stick.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:55 am to
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Rhymes isn't fast and he had the base stolen.

you mean the one he got thrown out on?
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