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re: Is the jury really still out on Steele?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:45 pm to gwilging
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:45 pm to gwilging
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This is late in the thread, but what happened with LSU's pursuit of Clancy Pendergast? This was the board's No. 1 candidate in the DC search. In theory, it seems like he would have been a great hire.
The quick answer from my perspective was that it was too obviously a really good hire for Miles to pull.
Of course he did the EXACT opposite.
Order of want based on who was reported as possible candidates:
Pendergast
Shoop
Stoops
Steele
Haley
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Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
I will say this . . . if it was between Steele and Haley, Les picked the right one.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:47 pm to boxcar willie
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I think we need to give Steele a chance to see if the defense can be fixed. One season with players who aren't even his type of players is hardly giving him a chance. Wait until he has full sized D-lineman and LB's to work with before making a judgement.
then he should play Chavis's (his buddy) styles defense until he does have his player...dont try and put a square peg in a round hole.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:47 pm to TigerFan55555
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Matter of fact does Miles have anyone in his coaches tree thats successful?
Can you say Gundy is from his coaching tree?
Sounds like Gundy didn't really use the Miles formula fwiw.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:48 pm to TigerFan55555
That's a good point.
I'm not sure why Florida can fire Muschamp, bring in new defensive coaches, and still have a great defense, but Steele can't figure out how to do the same thing.
I'm not sure why Florida can fire Muschamp, bring in new defensive coaches, and still have a great defense, but Steele can't figure out how to do the same thing.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Can you say Gundy is from his coaching tree?
What about Jimbo?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
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tiggerthetooth
the stats in that tweet says it all, his leash should be short.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:52 pm to TigerFan55555
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the stats in that tweet says it all, his leash should be short.
If there was a choke collar, he'd already be dead in my book.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:53 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Sounds like Gundy didn't really use the Miles formula fwiw.
no he doesnt, his offenses are balanced and I think at a school such as LSU I think he could hire a standout DC.. he has been and will be my top pick to replace miles..
Its been well documented the Gundy and Miles did not agree on things, gundy wanted to open it up a bit but he does believe in the power run game...balance is the key. Okie States Offenses are always pretty good..
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:55 pm to therick711
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but Steele can't figure out how to do the same thing.
Because I dont think he is that good, hes just a good "talker"... I liked chavis, he was quiet and let his results do the talking.. when he left I knew we werent looking good.. you can talk about 3rd and chavis all you want.. that SOB was a damn good DC. Miles just couldnt get an offense going to get them off the field.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:56 pm to therick711
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If there was a choke collar, he'd already be dead in my book.
same here
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:04 pm to TigerFan55555
Can anyone here at least agree that depth along the line & having exacly zero linebackers will get this defense killed next year?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:09 pm to TigerFan55555
from reading this thread it seems the majority of posters in this thread think Chavez was a better DC than Steele? or is it just that we could have done better than Steele in ya'lls opinion? Or can everyone agree that Chavez was a terrible recruiter who left the cupboard bare for the next DC whoever it would have been.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:11 pm to boxcar willie
Chavis would have given up TD's & lost to MSU & Florida.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:13 pm to boxcar willie
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Chavez was a better DC than Steele?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:14 pm to boxcar willie
I think if LSU had a much better offense, then defensive issues wouldnt be magnified like they are.
Currently they're 28th in Total Defense in the NCAA.
6th in Total Defense in the SEC.
Currently they're 28th in Total Defense in the NCAA.
6th in Total Defense in the SEC.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:19 pm to tiggerthetooth
I think that's right. If LSU isn't going to consistently have a top offense, they absolutely always need a loaded defense. It is the Miles formula. Sadly, a top 30 defense isn't going to get it done under the Miles formula. LSU being 50th in scoring defense is just not good enough no matter what.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:22 pm to therick711
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If LSU isn't going to consistently have a top offense, they absolutely always need a loaded defense. It is the Miles formula.
And Miles is an offensive coach
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I liked chavis, he was quiet and let his results do the talking..
Chavis and quiet do not belong in the same sentence. I don't understand how Chavis' guys at A&M are struggling with his new scheme and he gets praised (A&M has a good amount of talent on the DL and S positions) and Steele is bashed for his players failing to be fundamentally sound in a new scheme when his position groups aren't as talented as they have been.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
When we start to make excuses for defenses, you know shite is bad. Les Miles philosophy fails without a great defense. LSU is known for great defenses. Les method of success=
Run the ball, great defense, and great special teams execution. He recently hired a proven failure at two of those positions. Lolololololololololllolllolololol.
Run the ball, great defense, and great special teams execution. He recently hired a proven failure at two of those positions. Lolololololololololllolllolololol.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 3:24 pm to TigerFan55555
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so we went from being DBU and DLINEU to being "respectable"
Just responding to "everything on defense is terrible" - while I might agree with a lot of the criticism, I felt like I need to challenge the assertion with raw data. Heck I've called out the secondary, myself. DL is merely a depth issue, IMHO - but our secondary - 2 choices: They've underperformed or they're overrated - pick your poison.
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I bet you think bringing in refugees is a good idea too...
Not really, baw.
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