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re: Is Jerrard Randall #2?
Posted on 7/10/12 at 3:28 pm to TXGunslinger10
Posted on 7/10/12 at 3:28 pm to TXGunslinger10
See that's not what im saying. I just like the idea. If we choose to play Mett from the first to the last snap that is cool with me. If we give Randall snaps here and there where the situation calls for it then cool. The reason I had to lay the resume out is to bring his boom to a one black cat pop. Lol
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Posted on 7/10/12 at 3:46 pm to 5Alive
Well allow me to help you out everybodies All American, I also played at the D1 football level and have a fairly broad understanding of football. Now that being said I won't challenge your knowledge of baseball and maybe you should just try to do the same with me in football. I ran track in HS if that matters to you. I got some of my description for you off of your on avavtar.
As for Rivals I don't care which service you want to use, he was the CONCENSUS #1 and that means everybody thought the same way. He was ranked as the #16 overall prospect that year and Randall was the #10 dual threat and not ranked at all on the national scene. Now I do agree that you can't use this as the basis for an entire arguement but don't be naive and say that they are this far off yet it could certainly being a mistake.
Your very definition of change of pace you destroyed when you "as long as it doesn't interupt" well let me explain to you that EVERYTIME you "CHANGE" the pace it interupts what you were doing on offense. The only time it doesn't intereupt what you're doing on offense is if you do it all the time and the rest of the offense is used to it. Different QB's use different timing and cadence and it causes the OL to jump and can throw off the timing of the skill positions.
Again you didn't disappoint though because you used a curse word, called me a scrub, and someone else a jock rider... low budget, I look forward to making you look foolish again the near future.
As for Rivals I don't care which service you want to use, he was the CONCENSUS #1 and that means everybody thought the same way. He was ranked as the #16 overall prospect that year and Randall was the #10 dual threat and not ranked at all on the national scene. Now I do agree that you can't use this as the basis for an entire arguement but don't be naive and say that they are this far off yet it could certainly being a mistake.
Your very definition of change of pace you destroyed when you "as long as it doesn't interupt" well let me explain to you that EVERYTIME you "CHANGE" the pace it interupts what you were doing on offense. The only time it doesn't intereupt what you're doing on offense is if you do it all the time and the rest of the offense is used to it. Different QB's use different timing and cadence and it causes the OL to jump and can throw off the timing of the skill positions.
Again you didn't disappoint though because you used a curse word, called me a scrub, and someone else a jock rider... low budget, I look forward to making you look foolish again the near future.
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:12 pm to Corndawg
So I guess the fact that LSU and Florida used it to win a NC should totally be discarded? Right? Here's a little link to say that you really shouldn't use any recruiting services as you basis for argument.
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Also according to ESPN he was #8 overall and in the ESPN top 150 not too bad for somebody that YOU never heard of. LINK
My avatar man really? O my bad I used a curse word, next time use the ear muffs.
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Also according to ESPN he was #8 overall and in the ESPN top 150 not too bad for somebody that YOU never heard of. LINK
My avatar man really? O my bad I used a curse word, next time use the ear muffs.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:17 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
He's a great athlete no doubt...but he will never start for LSU
JMO..carry on
JMO..carry on
Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:23 pm to 5Alive
You're still missing it... Our 07 team was designed for that based on RP being able to do that and being the heir apparent to Flynn the following season. Hell he played 2 entire games that year and finished the season 51/75, 694, 8/2 so he was a legit threat to do both that year... he only ran for 207 and 2 td's so when he went into the game it wasn't a designed run as we had the entire offense at our disposal..
Ranking are different for every site but not that far off ranking kids #1 vs #8..
You put the picture up there not me, says something about you.. they always do... curse words are fun, esp when someone has accused you of low budget because they kinda prove the point without me having to...
Ranking are different for every site but not that far off ranking kids #1 vs #8..
You put the picture up there not me, says something about you.. they always do... curse words are fun, esp when someone has accused you of low budget because they kinda prove the point without me having to...
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:35 pm to Corndawg
So now Randall cant do that? And you know this bc? In the big games except for the SEC championship it was a designed run. SC, FLA, VT(used the wildcat pass on that one) The avatar is a joke but hey deduce what u want. I see you getting that post count up playa!!
Posted on 7/10/12 at 4:46 pm to Corndawg
Corndawg you nailed the real issue. RP did it successfully, so JJ was then viewed as the same type of QB when in actuality he was nowhere close, and Randall will face the same thing.
2 QB systems have always been (except for in the case of Hodson/Guidry & Flynn/RP)played out of Necessity.
2004-Marcus Randall couldn't get it done...enter, Jamarcus Russell
2008-Lee had a rough go of it...enter, JJ
2010-JJ couldn't get it done...enter, JLee
2011-I'm not going to say it was out of necessity because we were 8-0 with Lee and 5-0 despite JJ...and Les is gonna do what Les wants to do, so this year is moot.
I could give more examples, but I'm not going to.
Point is, Mett being THE guy...with no one else in the picture, will be like medicine for the fanbase. It's going to heal them from the thought process that we need 2 QB's.
Just let the healing process run its course.
2 QB systems have always been (except for in the case of Hodson/Guidry & Flynn/RP)played out of Necessity.
2004-Marcus Randall couldn't get it done...enter, Jamarcus Russell
2008-Lee had a rough go of it...enter, JJ
2010-JJ couldn't get it done...enter, JLee
2011-I'm not going to say it was out of necessity because we were 8-0 with Lee and 5-0 despite JJ...and Les is gonna do what Les wants to do, so this year is moot.
I could give more examples, but I'm not going to.
Point is, Mett being THE guy...with no one else in the picture, will be like medicine for the fanbase. It's going to heal them from the thought process that we need 2 QB's.
Just let the healing process run its course.
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 7/10/12 at 5:26 pm to 5Alive
Nothing Randall has done at any level has said he can do it and after 1.5 years on campus the coaches don't seem to think so either, thus bringing in 2 maybe 3 more Qb's since he signed.
RP threw for than 3x what he ran for so I think he was viewed as a threat to throw at any time. Randall is a camp arm here, thats not an insult to the kid but it is what it is.
I was going to thank for the post count going up, you've been making it very easy to build it through the constant beating you're taking... I'll say this though, you're not lazy because you keep getting up.
RP threw for than 3x what he ran for so I think he was viewed as a threat to throw at any time. Randall is a camp arm here, thats not an insult to the kid but it is what it is.
I was going to thank for the post count going up, you've been making it very easy to build it through the constant beating you're taking... I'll say this though, you're not lazy because you keep getting up.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:01 pm to Corndawg
I don't think I've heard anyone say we're going to a 2 QB system of equal playing time or anywhere close. If Randall comes in for 5 or 6 plays in a game I don't see where that's a big problem. And if those are all runs and the D starts expecting them, then a play-action pass is going to stun them (And Randall does have the arm strength to do that). Hopefully that will come in a key game. Behind Mett we've got two guys that haven't seen the field. This gives us a means of getting one some game time that isn't mop up duty.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:35 pm to dos crystal
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i think people get stuck on one thing. one specific play, and think that is the reason the entire offense is struggling. However, it has more to do with player execution than the play itself.
bullshite. Every time our offense struggled last year was soley because of JJ. He was the king of suck
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:37 pm to BilJ
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Among other things, JJ was an awful option qb
On jan9th he refused to attack the line of scrimmage. It was horrible. The worst part about it was we were still running it in the 4th qrt
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:40 pm to Corndawg
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aybe that makes me sound like an arse but it's still to soon from JJ for me to say I want to see him play.
It doesnt make you sound like an arse. It makes you sound ignorant. What the frick does JR have to do with JJ. Is all dual threat qbs off limits now? Because JJ was never a dual threat. He was a pro style qb coming out.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:42 pm to JJ27
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I don't care if Randall runs the option like Tommy Frazier. I love the option and have no problem with LSU running it. I have no problem with LSU having a dual threat QB. I have no problem with Randall being LSU's QB. I have a huge problem withe Les's philosophy of needing a change of pace QB. If you have 2 quarterbacks, you don't have one.
Cool. I'll call Florida 06, LSU 2011,LSU 07 and tell them they didn't win any titles those years
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
That is what dos crystal is saying it is not that the short side option is a bad play but the QB running the play executed it so poorly it made it a bad play. I mean who else have you seen running the option go backwards instead of parallel to the line of scrimage.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:53 pm to Rudy40
I'm sorry I every made a remark about the short side option (not that someone else wouldn't have done so anyway). Can we please get back on topic. This is about Randall and Rivers, not about JJ and the short side option.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:53 pm to Rudy40
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That is what dos crystal is saying it is not that the short side option is a bad play but the QB running the play executed it so poorly it made it a bad play. I mean who else have you seen running the option go backwards instead of parallel to the line of scrimage.
I've been called team JJ for saying good things about JJ and recognizing that Lee struggled last year as well, but JJ on jan9th was painful to watch run the option. He never even made his man tackle him. More than a few times his man made the tackle on the rb. It was one of the worst qb'd game I've ever seen.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 8:22 pm to DocBugbear
Agreed Doc I for one am fine with Randall being brought in ala RP for some short yardage plays as long it is reasonably successful. Also am hoping LSU will roll first few games and Rivers and Randal both see some action. Looking forward to Mett but will feel better once LSU has at least a little bit of experience behind him
Posted on 7/10/12 at 9:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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LSU 2011
How did that work out in the end?
Posted on 7/10/12 at 10:17 pm to 5Alive
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Hey u dont have to explain anything to me but the fact is get ur post count up.
Do everyone a favor and lower your post count.
Posted on 7/10/12 at 10:23 pm to Corndawg
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Nothing Randall has done at any level has said he can do it
And nothing has said he can't, unless you're writing him off because he redshirted?
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and after 1.5 years on campus the coaches don't seem to think so either, thus bringing in 2 maybe 3 more Qb's since he signed.
He could be the next Mike Vick and they'd still have to recruit depth at QB.
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