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Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:11 pm to tubucoco
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And I never said Cameron missed the foot work issue, you did, I said he didn't really bother to fix it as he was to distracted doing other bullshite (really nothing). Lo
you have no idea if he tried to fix it. you have already said that other people have tried and it didn't work. hell he was with George Whitfield Jr for a summer and didn't fix it.
It's clear you don't want actual cordial discussion so I'll just bow out.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:14 pm to luciouslou
The game is to big and fast for him It's not 7 on 7
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Cam Cameron's resume as a qb coach speaks for itself.
Brees and Rivers really fell off the map after departures with Cam didn't they? Flacco won a super bowl the same way Dilfer did. His only collegiate QB of note played WR in the league.
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he was here 3 years
I guess he still gets credit for developing Brees and Rivers in roughly the same time span he had Harris?
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Im just saying Cam wasnt a successful OC at lsu but many great nfl qbs swear by him and say he was instrumental. I'm sure some is just player speak but some has to be true too
I think this is player speak too. You're speculating that there is any truth to the mild compliments he receives from players. However, it's much rarer to hear players talk poorly about coaches. The last example I remember is when a first ballot NFL hall of famer stated publicly that Cam Cameron is an idiot.
I don't blame Cam completely though. The inability to develop a serviceable QB has been exclusive to LSU among schools of note during Miles's tenure. Harris and every other QB not named Mettenberger after Lee's freshman year played terrified to make a mistake.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
If you had signed on here earlier, brah, then yeah, but I'm bowing out for good now and too fricking tired to argue with you. It takes energy to combat your arse ! Cameron as I stated knew of the issues with Harris, as well as other issues Harris had like proper touch on different balls thrown, such as high throws to the corner of the end zone to tall WR's to give them the edge in a jump with a DB, shite like that. Instead you had other people trying to show Harris how to do that like Craig when it wasn't their job to do, it was Cameron, but this guy was a lazy arse clown to me that just didn't care.
the main thing is Harris is getting the tutelage now that he should have got at LSU, that's all that matters. If he fails now it's on him and good nite brah !
the main thing is Harris is getting the tutelage now that he should have got at LSU, that's all that matters. If he fails now it's on him and good nite brah !
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:30 pm to Tuco Pacifico
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Brees and Rivers really fell off the map after departures with Cam didn't they?
Trent green
drew brees
flacco
Jim Harbaugh
Elvis grbac
gus frerotte
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His only collegiate QB of note played WR in the league.
and he turned him into one of the most productive college qbs ever.. quote:
think this is player speak too. You're speculating that there is any truth to the mild compliments he receives from players. However, it's much rarer to hear players talk poorly about coaches. The last example I remember is when a first ballot NFL hall of famer stated publicly that Cam Cameron is an idiot.
he was named nfl assistant of the year while at San Diego.
he was a nfl oc/qb coach or head coach from 1994-2012.
come on.
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I guess he still gets credit for developing Brees and Rivers in roughly the same time span he had Harris?
roughly?
he with brees for 4 years.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:34 pm to tubucoco
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well as other issues Harris had like proper touch on different balls thrown, such as high throws to the corner of the end zone to tall WR's to give them the edge in a jump with a DB, shite like that. Instead you had other people trying to show Harris how to do that like Craig when it wasn't their job to do, it was Cameron, but this guy was a lazy arse clown to me that just didn't care.
how on earth do you know Cam didn't try to coach these out of Harris.
you have zero proof Cam didn't try to change these things.
you've already admitted that other people have tried coaching it out of Harris and he still went back.
HE WAS WITH THE QB GURU( GEORGE WHITFIELD JR) FOR MONTHS AND HE STILL REVERTED BACK
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the main thing is Harris is getting the tutelage now that he should have got at LSU, that's all that matters
neither one of us know what Cam did with Harris.
do you know someone on the team and they said Cam didn't care?
I'm not being a smartass.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:49 pm to Hamma1122
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The game is to big and fast for him It's not 7 on 7
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Maybe that's why he went to the ACC? Sucks for him that he's one of the highest rated recruits on their roster. They litterally have 13 4 Stars on the roster....He won't have an LF7 to bail him out.
But hey. Good luck Brandon.
The game is to big and fast for him It's not 7 on 7
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Maybe that's why he went to the ACC? Sucks for him that he's one of the highest rated recruits on their roster. They litterally have 13 4 Stars on the roster....He won't have an LF7 to bail him out.
But hey. Good luck Brandon.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:49 pm to Tuco Pacifico
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I guess he still gets credit for developing Brees and Rivers in roughly the same time span he had Harris?
he had Brees and Flacco for 4 and 4.5 seasons.
you also can't count the time the same since on the field coaching and practicing is limited in cfb to 20 hrs a week.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:You're always a smart arse. One more time, brah, and I'm gone for real, frick. If another coach such as D Craig joins LSU's staff and recognizes simple things right off the bat like Harris isn't throwing the ball right, he's not putting the correct touch on a pass, then that says to me that Cameron isn't showing him shite and that is also his job to do. I think Cameron was too concerned with getting Harris to learn the offense that they wanted him to run, too concerned with getting him out of the offense that he primarily ran in HS and knew which was mostly the spread. He wasn't concerned with the other facets that a OC/QB coach should be concerned with showing a QB.
I'm not being a smartass.
also, I didn't say others once again I said Eli Manning gave him some instruction on how to set his feet on throws at a camp. That's much different from getting tutelage on feet placement and someone working with you on how to do that correctly which is also Cameron's job to do. But by all means continue to pull BS out your arse like you always do.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:01 pm to tubucoco
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. I think Cameron was too concerned with getting Harris to learn the offense that they wanted him to run, too concerned with getting him out of the offense that he primarily ran in HS and knew which was mostly the spread. He wasn't concerned with the other facets that a OC/QB coach should be concerned with showing a QB.
Sorry man, but you lose there. If Harris didn't know the Offense he's litterally retarted. Etling stepped in off the bench and EXPANDED the offense with the TE coach calling the plays.
Terrible argument. There's a reason why when O stepped in Harris never stepped on the field. Even during blowouts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:02 pm to Dlab2013
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If Harris didn't know the Offense he's litterally retarted
never change, tRant
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:07 pm to ATLTiger
I mean my wife was calling the next play for the last 3 years....... Can't be that hard to figure out 
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:13 pm to tubucoco
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But by all means continue to pull BS out your arse like you always do.
which one of us is making statements that can only be proven by being a lsu football player or someone around Cam and the qbs
neither one of us know what Cam did with Harris. the difference is in not acting like my opinion is a fact.
what we do know for a fact is that Harris spent the off season with the best independent qb coach in the country and he still reverts back to the bad habits.
holla at ya later
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:15 pm to ATLTiger
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never change, tRant
I seent it.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:25 pm to Dlab2013
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my wife was calling the next play for the last 3 years
Pics?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:45 pm to OldManRiver
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He's not a read option guy, he wants to stand back in the gun and sling the ball. One of the things he disliked about Cam/Miles was them forcing the designed runs on him.
He ran for like 1000 yards his senior year of high school.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Brees and Flacco improved outside of him imo as well
And again it's two different leagues
Before Cameron was here I once said I doubt Tom Brady would even have success under Miles with his offense.
Brees became absolutely elite under Sean and Flacco won a Super Bowl once they fired him.
Plus why couldn't he ever sign a big time qb? They ended up having to beg Scott late after so many misses recruiting his style of qb. They both needed to go if they couldn't put a DT qb in position to have success at the college level or recruit the position better.. it's actually not that difficult to have success with a dt qb in college.. I don't care about what success they have at the next level if they can't have it in college.. and again Cameron had been fired a number of times but his buddy Miles refused to do.
At least O held onto Brennan and Narcisse and no issue firing guys not producing.
And again it's two different leagues
Before Cameron was here I once said I doubt Tom Brady would even have success under Miles with his offense.
Brees became absolutely elite under Sean and Flacco won a Super Bowl once they fired him.
Plus why couldn't he ever sign a big time qb? They ended up having to beg Scott late after so many misses recruiting his style of qb. They both needed to go if they couldn't put a DT qb in position to have success at the college level or recruit the position better.. it's actually not that difficult to have success with a dt qb in college.. I don't care about what success they have at the next level if they can't have it in college.. and again Cameron had been fired a number of times but his buddy Miles refused to do.
At least O held onto Brennan and Narcisse and no issue firing guys not producing.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:52 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Pics?
She pretty hot bro. Don't think I'll share with the tards on here
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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how on earth do you know Cam didn't try to coach these out of Harris. you have zero proof Cam didn't try to change these things.
We will see this season if a different coach and atmosphere matters. Going to be interesting. I'm not predicting either way other than I think Harris will either thrive or be below mediocre.
The game they truly let Harris lose he was absolutely incredible.. when they had no pressure and were trailing Miss St he was making NFL throws.. but they never really went back to that trust with him.
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