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re: HVL’s trainer essentially says HVL was lied to by LSU

Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:51 am to
Well he and HVL obviously didn’t work on protecting the ball, because she not only didn’t play PG well, when given the opportunity, but she was a turnover machine.

It was almost like she was on different playbook with the rest of the team and out of sync. That’s not your position, that’s your chemistry. She just didn’t fit in for whatever reason. I wish her well.
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
10036 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:51 am to
Sounds like a good thing she’s gone
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24429 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:52 am to
So he never watched how Morris was used in 22-23? That’s how she was used. The difference is Morris is quicker.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66065 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:53 am to
Yeah, it is. Especially if they are going to burn bridges now.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71465 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:56 am to
I think it's a combo of bad fit, and Mulkey having to make things work when they lost the true point guard.

Wish her nothing but the best and hope she lights it up the next place she goes.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:56 am to
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He says they focused on PG skills “getting penetration in the paint, probe defense, control pace, outside pressure, use her change of speeds to get to passing areas on the floor, get to the paint, and not only looking for her shot but to facilitate.”


Isn’t that exactly what LSU had her doing this year?
Posted by Nomadic Bengal
Member since Jul 2022
1480 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:02 am to
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Hailey is of such a strong mind

Doubt. Remember the interview that was posted before the season about how she was reading every comment about herself and couldn’t stay off of social media?

The long and short of it is - she wasn’t quick enough to play PG and turned the ball over. When she played SG, she didn’t make shots. Her drives to the basket were weak and the ball alway hit the front of the rim.

That’s just what it is.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16874 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:02 am to
According to him, which was it? Did they train for PG or SG skills? He says both.

Nothing was sprung at the last minute on the HVL party. It was common knowledge she was being brought in to play PG. Personally, I thought she’d be great at it and still score her share. I was wrong.

HVL, her dad, and trainer knew what they were getting into. This team was loaded. Maybe too loaded and not enough basketballs to go around.

Losing Smith and Poole before SEC play sure did not help, but bottom line, HVL did not get us any further than she did Louisville—Elite Eight. It did not work out. She tried and she worked hard but it wasn’t a good fit. Let’s move on. This will be Mikaylah Williams’s and Flau’Jae Johnson’s team next season.

And goddamn, I hope the NCAA bans teams from playing in these jack leg Caribbean tournaments in those fricking shitty junior high gyms.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
844 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:05 am to
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He says they focused on PG skills “getting penetration in the paint, probe defense, control pace, outside pressure, use her change of speeds to get to passing areas on the floor, get to the paint, and not only looking for her shot but to facilitate.”


If she was actually good at any of that she would have been fine…

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Says she is very lethal in her turnarounds, midrange and an amazing 3 pt shot and they focused on extending that range and more off-the-bounce 3s.


Career 33% shooter from 3.

This dude is sipping too much kool aid
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
544 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:06 am to
She was overhyped. She’s essentially the same player that Louisville had. Her 2pt % declined as she shot 46% for 3 years in a row, while she shot 40% at LSU, but she shot better from 3 point range at 34% than at her last season at Louisville in which she only shot 29% from 3. Also her Assist to turnover rate every year at Louisville was about 1-1, while it improved to about 1.5-1 at LSU. Her BPM dropped a little from the 8 range to 7, but that’s still good. HVL had the worst BPM of any starter, but still better than anyone else on the team. Mikaylah Williams only had a 9 BPM, but we cut her more slack because she was a freshmen. HVL also had a 8.8 BPM as a freshman, but that was her best ever. We just expected too much from HVL. She would help us if she came off the bench, so it is definitely not good to lose her, but we need to get better at the point. I wish her well, though I wish she had stayed.

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Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56415 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:08 am to
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Maybe too loaded and not enough basketballs to go around.
yet Flaujae finds a way to get hers and help her team w no drama.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7331 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:12 am to
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an amazing 3 pt shot and they focused on extending that range and more off-the-bounce 3s


She was 1-6 from 3pt land when they needed her the most. Hardly amazing.

Also, this is some BS excuses, how many football and baseball players come in and change positions and never cry about it?
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16874 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:13 am to
I was enamored at getting HVL, thinking with that starting lineup, it was a better than even chance we’d go undefeated.

In retrospect, we’d have been better off taking Endiya Rogers, a true PG. I’m not sure why we didn’t, considering she and Angel Reese were best buddies.

For this portal season, the Advocate mentioned nothing about DeeDee Hagemann, the All Big Ten PG who has been in contact with LSU, but mentioned getting a PG from Princeton who is rated the top player in the portal.

Personally I’d prefer Hagemann with her B10 experience but I honestly know nothing about the Princeton PG so I’ll trust Mulkey on this.

I do know this—we are loaded and could afford to misfire in the 2024 recruiting class. But Redus better get his shite together beginning in 2025 and quit getting his arse kicked in recruiting. He thinks he’s Superman as a recruiter but lately he hasn’t even been Clark Kent.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6736 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:19 am to
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an amazing 3 pt shot and they focused on extending that range and more off-the-bounce 3s.


She is too streaky. Throws up bricks for days.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16874 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:19 am to
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She would help us if she came off the bench, so it is definitely not good to lose her, but we need to get better at the point. I wish her well, though I wish she had stayed.


Well true, but no way in hell she’s staying at LSU to come off the bench.

This kinda pisses me off. The obvious conclusion is this just wasn’t a good fit, so let’s move on. Then this fricker of a trainer tries to do damage control by shitting on LSU and Mulkey. If HVL approved this message, I’ve lost some respect for her.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
844 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:20 am to
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She was 1-6 from 3pt land when they needed her the most. Hardly amazing.


And Iowa was daring her to shoot. Especially off the dribble.
Posted by Aroussel
Illinois
Member since Jun 2023
138 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:22 am to
Great info. Thanks for sharing. She was who she was. Hype machine mighta been too elevated. She was an asset!! Wish she would stay.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16874 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:29 am to
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And Iowa was daring her to shoot. Especially off the dribble.


Yep. She hits about three more wide open shots, we win.

But let’s remember, Jasmine Carson came out of nowhere in the 2023 NC to shoot the lights out in the first half. Nobody or any combination of players came close to that last Monday.

And here was where Kateri Poole was missed. She was a rugged defender in 2023 and could have helped hold Caitlin Clark to around her average instead of letting her go hog wild.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 9:53 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72829 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:30 am to
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Says she is very lethal in her turnarounds,


never saw this nor did we see her down low to try one

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and an amazing 3 pt shot


never saw this and she had chances

quote:

midrange


this we did see and was decent
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7996 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:43 am to
At some point that’s it! You can be the person who stands at a spot and shoot all day or you play the game.
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