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re: How many titles would lsu have won if the 90's talent stays in state?

Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:54 am to
Posted by tigerfootball10
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 6:54 am to
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The talent at lsu in 90's was shite outside of the 96&97&2001

Couldn't be more wrong but that's normal for you
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:01 am to
Why did Miles have more talent than the other coaches? Because he was a much better recruiter and coach than any of the coaches we had in the 90s.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:04 am to
Well that's easy to say but the real reason is all of the athletic facilities Saban built that's what moved us up to the top level of recruiting. The head coach doesn't actually recruit all the kids either so this myth that miles or Saban for that matter recruited all our players is just silly.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 7:11 am
Posted by Brazos
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:27 am to
I don't care what the score was midway through the third quarter, the final score was 38-17 and that's getting blown out.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Couldn't be more wrong but that's normal for you


Ha ha. Yeah 90's lsu was drippibg woth talent and thats why it was one of the worst decades in program history.

Please enlighten me with all the TALENT at lsu in the early 90's.
From 1991-1996 lsu had a total of 9 players drafted into the nfl but dont let facts get in the way of you being ignorant all while calling someone else ignorant.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:00 pm to
Coaching has a shitload to do with the little number of players drafted.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Well that's easy to say but the real reason is all of the athletic facilities Saban built that's what moved us up to the top level of recruiting. The head coach doesn't actually recruit all the kids either so this myth that miles or Saban for that matter recruited all our players is just silly.


Explain Houston and other smaller schools then who get big time recruits under up and coming head coaches. Explain why Texas and Notre Dame aren't top 5 every year in recruiting in spite of having some of the best facilities in the nation. If you think that a great recruiter isn't that important then you don't know a lot about college football.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Coaching has a shitload to do with the little number of players drafted


Talent is talent.

92- 2 players
93- 0 players
94-2 players
95-2 players


We were not talented from 91-96.

Hell one of the 9 players i listed wouldnt have even been drafted in todays draft because he went in the 11th round.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:18 pm to
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Explain Houston and other smaller schools then who get big time recruits under up and coming head coaches. Explain why Texas and Notre Dame aren't top 5 every year in recruiting in spite of having some of the best facilities in the nation. If you think that a great recruiter isn't that important then you don't know a lot about college football.


He didnt say facilities are all a recruit looks at. It cant be denied that Saban made upgrading the facilities a prerequisite for taking the job. Also Madking is right the head coach doesnt recruit every player. Frank Wilson was responsible for a good bit of our recruits. Im not saying Miles wasnt a great recruiter because IMO he was. Im just saying the HC isnt responsible for every recruit. Hell we got some good recruits because of Peveto.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:37 pm to
Kevin Mawae
Harold Bishop
Marcus Price
Darriel McCorvey
Corey Raymond
Denard Walker
Tori James
Brett Bech
David Lafleur
Kerry Jenkins
Kevin Faulk
Wade Richey
Chuck Wiley
Todd McClure
Alan Faneca
Rodney Young
Larry Foster
Raion Hill
Mark Roman
Kenny Mixon
Eddie Kennison
Anthony Marshall
Ben Bordelon
Gabe Northern
Todd Kinchen
Mark Boutte
Bo Davis
Nickie Savoie
Rondell Mealey
Clarence Leblanc
Cecil Collins
Alcender Jackson
Arnold Miller
Ryan Clark
Fred Booker
Rohan Davey
Craig Nall
Brandon Winey
Dwayne Pierce
Jarvis Green
Robert Royal

Most of these guys had over 5 years in the League but LSU had no talent. You know what the F your talking about right?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14529 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:42 pm to
Catholic High All-non LSU team.

Warrick Dunn, Travis Minor, Major Applewhite.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:43 pm to
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He didnt say facilities are all a recruit looks at. It cant be denied that Saban made upgrading the facilities a prerequisite for taking the job. Also Madking is right the head coach doesnt recruit every player. Frank Wilson was responsible for a good bit of our recruits. Im not saying Miles wasnt a great recruiter because IMO he was. Im just saying the HC isnt responsible for every recruit. Hell we got some good recruits because of Peveto.


The Head Coach is responsible for everything that goes on with the program, good and bad. Miles did a lot of great things and a lot of bad things while LSU HC. He should get his due credit for both.

Hallman or Archer could have done the same thing as Miles and Saban if they had the coaching and recruiting ability. Dinardo could recruit his butt off and he got a lot of great players to stay home but he his weakness was bad assistant coaches.
Posted by The Real LSU King
Bayou Country
Member since Sep 2011
303 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:57 pm to
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Because he was a much better recruiter and coach than any of the coaches we had in the 90s.


This speaks volumes. For as terrible as Miles was, he was far better than Archer, Hallman, and Gerry. However, it looks like even though Miles won a championship with Nick's players in 2007, his resistance to change, and the downhill direction he took us, only puts him a notch higher than those buffoons in the 90's.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:03 pm to
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!! He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is a miles homer and a blow hard......
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:21 pm to
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The Head Coach is responsible for everything that goes on with the program, good and bad. Miles did a lot of great things and a lot of bad things while LSU HC. He should get his due credit for both.



Hello, Im Rickdaddy 4188. Are you familiar with my work on here? I guess not if youre suggesting my post was meant as a shot at Miles. I know the HC gets the blame and the glory. Im just saying that HC dont recruit every player individually. Yes Miles sat down with every recruit and their parents but cfb staffs usually assign certain recruiters to a region and they are the 1st coaches that the recriit meets and they are the coaches the recruits form a bond with. Now huge recruits like LF and Dylan Moses are handled by LM so the recruit doesnt feel slighted.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:22 pm to
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You know what the F your talking about right?


We had 9 players drafted into the nfl from 91-96. Is that talent?

1993 we had zero players drafted but yeah we were talented.


Kevin mawae and harold bishop were the only players drafted that year.


Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit. I said the 96&97 teams were talented. From 91-96 were not talented at all and FACTS PROVE IT.

My original post dumbass.

quote:

The talent at lsu in 90's was shite outside of the 96&97&2001
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!! He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is a miles homer and a blow hard......


I stated facts dummy.

9 players drafted from 1991-1996. I done care about the ignorant opinions of who you think was a good player.

Almost all the guys he listed were from the late 90's teams i said were talented.
Get a clue.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:29 pm to
We had talent from 91-96. We had bad coaching. It's pretty simple Ricky . Better coaching would had more players drafted. It's not that hard to figure out.
Posted by The Real LSU King
Bayou Country
Member since Sep 2011
303 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:30 pm to
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ello, Im Rickdaddy 4188. Are you familiar with my work on here?


I bet you pick up alot of wagon tail with that line? Where you do your cruising? Far end of Bourbon St? Rick Daddy, such a man!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

We had talent from 91-96. We had bad coaching. It's pretty simple Ricky . Better coaching would had more players drafted. It's not that hard to figure out.



No we didnt. My god. 9 players drafted. He nfl drafts off of potential. Eduacte yourself about football. Only a dumbass that has not clue would say our 92,93,94,& 95 teams were talented.

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