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Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:03 pm to CajunFootball
HOW many passes did Ark. drop that were wide open Touchdowns?? please they gave the game away.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:06 pm to Ace Midnight
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You will recall that Chip Kelly is 22-4. They scored 182 points against 6 ranked opponents in 2010, winning 3 out of those 5 contests. While they lost to Boise State (in their opener on the road) 19-8 and to tOhio State (home of the Tat-5) in the Rose Bowl 26-17, they scored 42 points in their only other loss, which was to (at the time unranked) Stanford. They CRUSHED then #6 Cal 42-3, roughed up the Trojans (then #4) 47-20, and survived a shootout in the Civil War 37-33 (with Oregon State then at #13), albeit those wins were all in Eugene. They did not play nearly as well on the road than at home, but their offensive averaged 4 1/2 TDs against their ranked opponents. From where I sit, the Oregon offense doesn't have anything to prove - the LSU offense does. (ETA: and overall, Oregon played Auburn better than we did, though Oregon's offense sputtered some)
Ace Midnight. I have to commend your research there buddy! I have a high respect when someone studies another! I do not mean to boast though, but all that you listed, that was just for 2009, except mentioning Auburn. Oregon was 30 percent improved in 2010. We really were that much better last year then that good year that you listed. 2 years ago, as you listed, is where we turned the corner and became King of our Conference. Last year is when we arrived near the top nationally close to the mountain top. And I am not joking about us being 30 percent improved all around then 2009.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:07 pm to GeuaxPhish
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GeuaxPhish
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:08 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Ducksfly
What is your opinion of Boise State? Seeing as you played them do you consider them a real team or just someone who plays 1~2 games a year?
What is your opinion of Boise State? Seeing as you played them do you consider them a real team or just someone who plays 1~2 games a year?
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:15 pm to hemiroid
Was there any point in the game that Arky was winning? I know I could look at the boxscore. I hate tOSU btw. However, Arky was playing from behind and still couldn't beat them with tOSU's best coverage guys out. Heyward was just dominate. Besides, catching the ball is part of the game. We've sufferd from WR having the dropsies. There are excuses and then there is the scoreboard.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:18 pm to CajunFootball
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Ducksfly
What is your opinion of Boise State? Seeing as you played them do you consider them a real team or just someone who plays 1~2 games a year?
I am not Duckfly but half my family hails from Nampa. Chase Baker and Billy Wynn are as good at DT duo that I've seen. They aren't Hewward or Fairley alone but as a duo, they are good. Add in Shea McClellin and I'd put their dline as good as any in the PAC.
This year they are going to have a hard time with WR. I don't think they reload like they have in the past. Their defense will keep them in the game against Georgia.
Also, Doug Martin is a fricking physical speciman at rb.
This post was edited on 6/8/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:21 pm to bisonduck
As an SEC team(waiting on UGA to prove this) I don't think they stand a chance against our top defenses. Right now I'd say UGA is a middle of the road SEC team with good upside.
An if you think their D-line is as good as any in the PAC then that makes me wonder even more. Where you would you rank their D-line against Auburns last year and UT's?
An if you think their D-line is as good as any in the PAC then that makes me wonder even more. Where you would you rank their D-line against Auburns last year and UT's?
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:24 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Holden Caulfield
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I thought Auburn was the best team in the nation in 2010. What comes after that is little more than unsubstantiated subjective opinion. I don't think Oregon could have beaten Alabama or LSU but that doesn't mean the Ducks didn't deserve to play for the NC because under the guidelines in place you clearly earned the game.
Right on Sir. I respect your opinion And you may be right I just was curious and you explained. Thank you. But may I suggest something? I thought the idea of a BCS winner was not to find out who the best two teams are, but the top team is. And in theory, if no one elts in the SEC could beat Au, then that is too bad. Give another Conference a try. You indeed may be right. A LSU or Bama may of beat of been better then UO last year. However, the best of the SEC went forward. And they already proved they were the best of the SEC. That is what a SEC champ game is for. And even before the BCS game, everyone knows who the #2 team is, but the country wants to see who the top team is.
You indeed may be right though. We all will never know unless they actually play. But in my mind, the playoffs are each Conference champ game. If I had my will be done, take all major Conference champs, and do a few other rounds. Take the 1 best from each Conference and see who is the top one team. Play them all off. As I already said, the #2 team we already knew, from Conference play in each.
Though your view might be right. However there is no proof they were the best. And there is no proof to suggest they were the second best. And lets face it, no one cares about the second best. Just ask us or TCU about that. Its only designed to find out who the top team is. A team such as a Bama who already lost twice I have no compassion for as they had their chance. AU lost none. And we don't give trophies to 2nd best so no one cares about them. I personally think Stanford was the 2nd best team out there. But there is absolutely no way to prove that. None of us can, and who was 2nd does not matter at all.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:24 pm to CajunFootball
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As an SEC team(waiting on UGA to prove this) I don't think they stand a chance against our top defenses. Right now I'd say UGA is a middle of the road SEC team with good upside.
An if you think their D-line is as good as any in the PAC then that makes me wonder even more. Where you would you rank their D-line against Auburns last year and UT's?
Their dline is legit. Auburn's was better. Boise States was way better than UT's. Wynn and Baker are good. Wynn has played since a frosh and was offered by the entire Pac. Why he choose BSU is beyond me. Baker would have been sought after but was injured in high school. BSU got lucky with him that he healed correctly.
Their dbs are really good too. Their backer corp is probably the weakest of the defense but they run a lot of 4-2-5 like LSU. They get a lot of production out of that nickle spot. They call it the spartan package.
The problem with BSU is they get their entire 2 deep in after the first half. So, they are able to develop guys more than we do. Oregon was able to do this last year but our teams can't manufacture it like them.
This post was edited on 6/8/11 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:28 pm to bisonduck
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Cam wasn't himself for a very good reason - Kenny Rowe fricked him up. Every team had a chance to do the same but didn't.
That is true Kenny Rowe injured his back by a tackle but that only happened later in the game. So Cam was his healthy self for most of it. To which I laugh at that because AU fans taunted at us much for that whole 5 weeks that Fairly(or another) was going to cut our QB in half or injure him greatly. I laugh cause the exact opposite happened, lol. Funny though, many LSU fans were saying the same things on here 2 months ago with us. I really think some SEC fans, who have not seen much PAC football, really think we play only flag football out here or something. Funny...
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:32 pm to CajunFootball
BSU lost a lot from the last two seasons, btw. Their dline will be a strength but I believe some key guys like Venables and Johnson will be gone. Those two were highly productive.
They also lost two really good receivers.
They also lost two really good receivers.
This post was edited on 6/8/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:41 pm to CajunFootball
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Ducksfly
What is your opinion of Boise State? Seeing as you played them do you consider them a real team or just someone who plays 1~2 games a year?
Sorry, I consider BSU the real deal. (even though all Ducks have a strong distaste to their fans). Nope, BSU is very real. They are monsters on D, and with this QB they are lights out. I actually think their QB is better then Luck. I like the QB from Houston much, but I think Moore is the best QB in the game. He is a coaches kid and he has a blinding memory and knows football better then many of his coaches(they have went on record saying this). I think as long as BSU has that QB they will do well. Next year big drop off? I dont know, probably. But BSU is not all hype. I think if they played last year in the PAC they would of rocked many. However UO was 30 percent improved from 2009-2010. Many honest BSU fans have told me UO would of beaten them last year in a close one. I agree.
I know BSU very well because I grew up in far Eastern Oregon near Idaho. There were more BSU fans there then anyone. And UO fans were #3 after OSU. We got all our TV stations from Boise. I had many friend go to school there. I saw them on TV a lot. I still follow them. But of course I bleed Green/Yellow, and detest them, mainly because of their fans and also cause their D players did a lot of cheep shots all year 2 years ago, and on us tons. They were known to be a little dirty, late hits and such. I have much respect for their coaching staff though. Their HC is a former UO assistant. But their fans are the worst in this country by FAR!
BSU sadly(even though I wish they died and went away) is the real deal. Not top best in the nation, but can hang with about anyone, even the top SEC teams. I do think BSU would of been #2 in the SEC last year if they were in the SEC. I know that comes as a shock, but they were that good. They lost their 2 top WR's(VERY GOOD ONES). If they can replace those, they will be good this year. If you are betting money on the UGA game. I would not bet for UGA. BSU plays with this major chip on their shoulder trying so hard to prove the world wrong. And I expect UGA to get crushed. Just my view, but at least you know I am unbiased as I really hate them. Oh, and BSU is in the PAC-10 already kind of, for wrestling, lol.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:46 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Interesting comments from two UO fans on BSU. Guess I'll have to see them against UGA before I can consider them real.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:48 pm to Tiger in NY
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Good Lord...
This. And, you spelled "Geaux" wrong in your user name.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:49 pm to CajunFootball
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Interesting comments from two UO fans on BSU. Guess I'll have to see them against UGA before I can consider them real.
Didn't UGA beat CU in a thriller last year. I know Phil Steele has UGA high but that was a putrid offense at times.
BSU has some questions this year. That is for sure. I don't know how that game goes down. However, it won't be anything like their last trip there.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:53 pm to bisonduck
They had a freshman at QB last year, and AJ Green was out at the start. They've fallen lately from top of the east to middle of the road as I said.
I don't think their going to be mean and nasty as they were in say 03-07, but I think they have upside(if they can replace Green).
I don't think their going to be mean and nasty as they were in say 03-07, but I think they have upside(if they can replace Green).
Posted on 6/8/11 at 3:59 pm to CajunFootball
Moore is a surgeon and their line pass blocks really well. They evaluate and teach the qb spot as well as anyone. I thik their biggest problem is having to play a full game when a team is close. They absolutely choked that Nevada game and got soft as the game went along.
I think you will be impressed with the rush defense and their rb Martin. Doug Martin is the real deal.
I think you will be impressed with the rush defense and their rb Martin. Doug Martin is the real deal.
Posted on 6/8/11 at 4:00 pm to bisonduck
I really think it depends on which UGA comes to play. UGA black tops ready to piss in UF's mouth walks out with a win.
If UGA walks in cocky(like I bet they will) it might become a long night for both teams. An if BSU gets soft against UGA then they have no chance. Cannot play soft against SEC teams(Outside of UK and Vand) and win.
If UGA walks in cocky(like I bet they will) it might become a long night for both teams. An if BSU gets soft against UGA then they have no chance. Cannot play soft against SEC teams(Outside of UK and Vand) and win.
This post was edited on 6/8/11 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/8/11 at 4:09 pm to bisonduck
Ya, UGA losing to a terrible Colorado last year, that was funny.
SEC guys. I watch tons of football. It is my great hobby. I do not even watch TV expect for CF. Let me put it this way. If you want to make money, bet on BYU beating OleMyth. I followed them for hours and hours all last season because my boy was on there team. BYU will win that game. And BSU will beat UGA. UGA might be a little better this year, but I cannot see them beating BSU. Next year maybe without Moore, but this year, no way.
LSU fans, let me put it to you this way. For all of you that thrive on SEC glory, you are the only great hope early in the season with SEC teams. UGA and OleMiss are going down. You are the only team with a legitimate shot! And a very good one at that. This game is a nightmare to call in many ways. It might be super close. If by chance UO beats you(not saying they will)then the SEC is going to look like the West just took over the sport. BYW, BSU and UO all hail from the far North West and from a part of this country not known for Football. Out west, all West, Oregon is the king, the mack daddy. Every other state and fan looks up to us. Even BSU fans, and Utah fans, BYU fans. All fans out West think we are the bomb. And that is only cause they get all our games on TV and in the south you only get national ones. And all those fans compare their teams to Oregon, such as BSU fans biggest bragging rights is they once beat Oregon(actually twice). So if the SEC wants to save face, LSU has to win over Oregon. For the SEC will never hear the end of it.
Oregon is not the same. We are a big boy in CF and have been around the same time as you. We played in one of the first Rose Bowls. Us Ducks are not as naive as fans from Idaho or Utah who think their Conferences are anything close to the big boys. If the SEC looses all 3 of those games, you can bet you will see thousands of fans from those 2 states give the SEC such a smack-down all year long. For the SEC's rep it is all hinging on LSU to win or not. You may not agree with me or even see where I am coming from. But trust me, if all 3 win, BSU fans will flood all blogs in the nation and presume they are BCS champs cause of it. And those guys do not have a inkling of CF tradition or history. They were a junior college literally just a few years ago.
SEC guys. I watch tons of football. It is my great hobby. I do not even watch TV expect for CF. Let me put it this way. If you want to make money, bet on BYU beating OleMyth. I followed them for hours and hours all last season because my boy was on there team. BYU will win that game. And BSU will beat UGA. UGA might be a little better this year, but I cannot see them beating BSU. Next year maybe without Moore, but this year, no way.
LSU fans, let me put it to you this way. For all of you that thrive on SEC glory, you are the only great hope early in the season with SEC teams. UGA and OleMiss are going down. You are the only team with a legitimate shot! And a very good one at that. This game is a nightmare to call in many ways. It might be super close. If by chance UO beats you(not saying they will)then the SEC is going to look like the West just took over the sport. BYW, BSU and UO all hail from the far North West and from a part of this country not known for Football. Out west, all West, Oregon is the king, the mack daddy. Every other state and fan looks up to us. Even BSU fans, and Utah fans, BYU fans. All fans out West think we are the bomb. And that is only cause they get all our games on TV and in the south you only get national ones. And all those fans compare their teams to Oregon, such as BSU fans biggest bragging rights is they once beat Oregon(actually twice). So if the SEC wants to save face, LSU has to win over Oregon. For the SEC will never hear the end of it.
Oregon is not the same. We are a big boy in CF and have been around the same time as you. We played in one of the first Rose Bowls. Us Ducks are not as naive as fans from Idaho or Utah who think their Conferences are anything close to the big boys. If the SEC looses all 3 of those games, you can bet you will see thousands of fans from those 2 states give the SEC such a smack-down all year long. For the SEC's rep it is all hinging on LSU to win or not. You may not agree with me or even see where I am coming from. But trust me, if all 3 win, BSU fans will flood all blogs in the nation and presume they are BCS champs cause of it. And those guys do not have a inkling of CF tradition or history. They were a junior college literally just a few years ago.
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