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re: Here's why I'm ok with us running the football Saturday
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:28 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:28 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Moo State had 80 plays which exhausted the defense in the fourth quarter. I would have liked to see some high percentage short yardage passes to allow us to keep the ball if anything. Harris seemed up to it although the atmosphere was hostile especially for a young quarterback. All said I feel the defense should also be protected a bit in addition to the quarterback.
I agree Fournette is a beast, but 9 in the box was begging for a pass and LSU refused to bite.
I agree Fournette is a beast, but 9 in the box was begging for a pass and LSU refused to bite.
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:33 pm to LNCHBOX
How many points did we score in the 4th quarter? How many first downs? How many punts?
I really hope you're joking. We've got many playmakers on this team....although we may never get to see them in action. You're insinuating we cant win unless LF carries the load every game.
I dont believe that.
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Taking the ball out of LF's hands if anything nearly cost us the game.
I really hope you're joking. We've got many playmakers on this team....although we may never get to see them in action. You're insinuating we cant win unless LF carries the load every game.
I dont believe that.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:37 pm to km
Coulda, woulda, shoulda, didn't. Are we going to go through all itterations of infinite universal outcomes..??
Because in this itteration, we won.
Because in this itteration, we won.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:41 pm to mrPresident
Well you know better than these coaches.
Go on the sidelines and become a coach then
Go on the sidelines and become a coach then
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:43 pm to LACountyTiger
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It's not like we were running and getting 7 yards every play. They were stuffing is at the line and even though LF would occasionally break one, they were still forcing too many 3 and outs. Again, that nearly cost the game.
then how did fournette average 5.7 ypc? the honest truth is that the run game worked phenomenally well. also, it would be nice to see passes on 1st or 2nd down occasionally. we were looking really good on the intermediate routes early in the game.
rantards only seem to care if we are one dimensional running the football. miss st was one dimensional in that they could only throw.. equally bad.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:45 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Let's hope the "big improvement" from the first to second game pays off in the reduced number of penalties. Not for those last Saturday, I doubt our defense would have been gassed in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:46 pm to Gray Tiger
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I am assuming that you have actually seen the official game plan.
Im going to assume you have eyes in your head. You can watch the game plan unfold IRL in real time on TV. Try it some time...you might then grasp the concept that hes proposing.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:59 pm to RedTigerRulz
since we are in the world of if
imagine the defense isnt on its last leg in the 4th
run run pass punt
imagine the defense isnt on its last leg in the 4th
run run pass punt
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:04 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Nothing wrong with running but run when they expect pass and pass when they expect run.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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Not only that, we were riunning out of formations that told everyone watching exactly what was coming. And they still had almost 6 yards/attempt. Running was not the issue
hey dumbass, think what Fournette would do if the D didn't know exactly what was coming at them every play. Mixing it up is going to get Fournette even more yards and TD's. Just think what he could do if he actually had running lanes to run through
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:11 pm to zoom
I think what we saw Saturday night was that Les and Cam were in no way going to let BH make a mistake that cost us that game. Our defense played awesome, we were running the ball well. Miss St made a great adjustment and started taking what the defense was giving them ie short outs or slants. Go back and watch and you will see that we sacraficed a linebacker in coverage/rush EVERY play bc we were not going to let Dak win it with his legs again.
You have to see the big picture here or else you will be frustrated watching this. I pose a senario...BH throws a pick-6 or even an int on our side of the field and we lose the game...every one and their mom would be on this site saying why didnt we keep feeding LF and grind them down. This wasn't just one game...this was setting BH up for success down the road. The kid obviously has all of the physical tools and looked like he was in full command of the offense and had swag...he was confident.
That confidence is what we need him to carry and continue as the season and his career goes along. I, for one, was WAY impressed by our team, O and D. Looked sharp and we are oozing with talent. If you think we are going to be super conservative every game, buckle up...I think you will be proven wrong. But we may again against auburn bc they don't look like they can stop the run. It was one game and yea I wish it wouldn't have gotten so close. But we went on the road in a hostile SEC environment to a team that blew the doors off of us last year and we came out victorious. We are on the brink of a special couple of seasons here. So hop on the bandwagon and hang on tight. Cuz we comin to yo city.
You have to see the big picture here or else you will be frustrated watching this. I pose a senario...BH throws a pick-6 or even an int on our side of the field and we lose the game...every one and their mom would be on this site saying why didnt we keep feeding LF and grind them down. This wasn't just one game...this was setting BH up for success down the road. The kid obviously has all of the physical tools and looked like he was in full command of the offense and had swag...he was confident.
That confidence is what we need him to carry and continue as the season and his career goes along. I, for one, was WAY impressed by our team, O and D. Looked sharp and we are oozing with talent. If you think we are going to be super conservative every game, buckle up...I think you will be proven wrong. But we may again against auburn bc they don't look like they can stop the run. It was one game and yea I wish it wouldn't have gotten so close. But we went on the road in a hostile SEC environment to a team that blew the doors off of us last year and we came out victorious. We are on the brink of a special couple of seasons here. So hop on the bandwagon and hang on tight. Cuz we comin to yo city.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:15 pm to jbrau22
As an aside, go back and watch/listen to the interview with BH. "I think if you go and find Dak and ask him if he would rather switch spots with me, I think he would." This kid is doing all the right things...I'm so pumped!!!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:15 pm to nicholastiger
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by nicholastiger
Yeah but in a game LSU was dominating for 3 quarters there is no excuse for MSU running that many more plays than us
Last year there were less 3 and outs they the second half of the game as the opposition D got tired of being road graded. Saturday the run wasn't eating up enough clock 3rd qtr bc they weren't getting 1st downs.
Game
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:18 pm to boxcar willie
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think what Fournette would do if the D didn't know exactly what was coming at them every play. Mixing it up is going to get Fournette even more yards and TD's. Just think what he could do if he actually had running lanes to run through
The D knew Emmit Smith was going to run, what kept the running game open for Emmit was the threat of play action, which is like to see more of from BH.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:19 pm to jbrau22
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I think what we saw Saturday night was that Les and Cam were in no way going to let BH make a mistake that cost us that game. Our defense played awesome, we were running the ball well. Miss St made a great adjustment and started taking what the defense was giving them ie short outs or slants. Go back and watch and you will see that we sacraficed a linebacker in coverage/rush EVERY play bc we were not going to let Dak win it with his legs again. You have to see the big picture here or else you will be frustrated watching this. I pose a senario...BH throws a pick-6 or even an int on our side of the field and we lose the game...every one and their mom would be on this site saying why didnt we keep feeding LF and grind them down. This wasn't just one game...this was setting BH up for success down the road. The kid obviously has all of the physical tools and looked like he was in full command of the offense and had swag...he was confident. That confidence is what we need him to carry and continue as the season and his career goes along. I, for one, was WAY impressed by our team, O and D. Looked sharp and we are oozing with talent. If you think we are going to be super conservative every game, buckle up...I think you will be proven wrong. But we may again against auburn bc they don't look like they can stop the run. It was one game and yea I wish it wouldn't have gotten so close. But we went on the road in a hostile SEC environment to a team that blew the doors off of us last year and we came out victorious. We are on the brink of a special couple of seasons here. So hop on the bandwagon and hang on tight. Cuz we comin to yo city.
You can still protect Harris and prevent him from making mistakes while still throwing safe passes on 1st or second down or even running LF out of a pass formation.
Miles and Cam went into a shell Saturday and basically telegraphed every play from mid 3rd quarter on. And it damn near resulted in a loss.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:26 pm to RedTigerRulz
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I really hope you're joking.
Why would I be joking. Have you seen what LF did int he 4th quarter? MSU had no answer for him. Averaged over 6 yards on 8 carries and only a long of 17. If we had just kept feeding him, we likely pick up a few more first downs.
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You're insinuating we cant win unless LF carries the load every game. I dont believe that.
I said nothing of the sort, nor do I believe that. But looking back at the stats, LF was hashing then even in the 4th. If he had more touches, it's reasonable to assume he'd have had similar production to what he actually did.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:30 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I wonder what would have transpired without the penalties
Defense looked sharp but got worn down by impotent offense 3 and outs
Passing game was weak and tepid. Went into a shell after 2 quarters.
All of that is a recipe for 8-9 wins.
Defense looked sharp but got worn down by impotent offense 3 and outs
Passing game was weak and tepid. Went into a shell after 2 quarters.
All of that is a recipe for 8-9 wins.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:54 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
If LF would have carried the ball 15 times and BH would have thrown 2 picks the negatigers would have been feasting on Less and Cam for that reason. Do I think we should have thrown more on first down? Yes, I do, but I'm not going to throw out the coaching staff because I disagree on the play calling: It really is ridiculas to bash LM and Cam based on this one game. I do think they were protecting BH's phsche by running so much in a very hostile road environment. Hopefully we will see some more play action Sat Night, but when in doubt feed the beast the ball!! 
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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said nothing of the sort, nor do I believe that. But looking back at the stats, LF was hashing then even in the 4th. If he had more touches, it's reasonable to assume he'd have had similar production to what he actually did.
Im not saying LF isnt a beast or shouldnt receive the lion's share of the carries.
I'm agreeing with another poster on the point that we became way too one-dimensional ONCE AGAIN from the third quarter on, a recurring theme we've seen all to often in recent years. We were mixing the pass and run nicely in the first half..thus 21-6....THEN inexplicably, we almost outsmarted ourselves by going to the ol reliable turtleshell attack.
I just dont understand why you go away from what is working in the first half. And then have to hold our breaths on a last second kick to win the game. Its frustrating.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:03 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
What if....gasp...Harris completed the attempted pass?
Why are all the Miles jock sniffers assuming Harris would have thrown an incomplete pass?
Why are all the Miles jock sniffers assuming Harris would have thrown an incomplete pass?
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