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re: Here's why I'm ok with us running the football Saturday
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:07 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:07 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I believe CLM's ideal game is to get ahead early and decisively, then wear down the opponent and the clock with an overpowering running game. Had there not been so many penalties, and the run game was even a little more effective, the game and CLM's plan would have looked much better.
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:12 pm to Choupique19
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What if....gasp...Harris completed the attempted pass?
Why are all the Miles jock sniffers assuming Harris would have thrown an incomplete pass?
Ding Ding Ding!!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:16 pm to Choupique19
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Why are all the Miles jock sniffers assuming Harris would have thrown an incomplete pass?
Hey, jock sniffer here. LSU won.
Sorry to ruin it for you!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:18 pm to CWGriswald
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Hey, jock sniffer here. LSU won
No shite sherlock.....keep sniffing!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:23 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Here's why I'm ok with us running the football Saturday
My observations:
1st drive of game: 3 run plays, no first downs, punt
2nd drive of game: Great field position at MSU 48. 1 run for negative yards followed by 3 straight pass plays (37 yards to Dural for TD negated by penalty). First down on 23 yard pass to Smith. Williams and Fournette did the rest on the ground.
3rd drive of game: Great field position at MSU 46. First down pass to Dupre for 20 yards. Fournette runs for 26 on next play for TD.
So in three drives, we saw 5 pass attempts - 3 completed for big yardage (1 of those was called back). The drives with the big gainer pass plays yielded TDs.
We made them respect the pass and it helped set up the run.
In the 2nd quarter, our longest drive was 28 yards and we didn't complete any passes for more than 9 yards after the 1st quarter. On the TD drive in the 3rd quarter, we did manage to convert on 3rd and 5 using the sole pass attempt on that impressive 75 yard drive.
On all 3 TD drives, we needed a pass at some point to sustain the drive and move the chains.
Fournette is a beast. Harris is very impressive on his feet. Harris had 4 runs of 10+ yards (one run was called back due to illegal block).
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3) The plan was obviously to ease Harris into the starting position. The coaching staff was dead set on not letting him cost us the game, and possibly costing Harris his confidence. He looked great in his limited opportunities though.
This makes more and more sense the more I read it. I hope they let him work more on his passing as the competition allows. We'll need his arm later in the season when we play Bama.
But yeah, right now Harris mostly needs confidence. He's definitely got loads of talent.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:31 pm to BrerTiger
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This makes more and more sense the more I read it. I hope they let him work more on his passing as the competition allows. We'll need his arm later in the season when we play Bama.
I was as frustrated as anyone Saturday night, but the reality is Harris is likely to be the QB for the next 3 years. You want him to develop into the best he can be, and losing one game at MSU at the beginning of the year isn't worth risking the impact on his psyche if he puts up a pick 6 in the 4th quarter to cost the team a win. As it was, if LSU would have lost, Miles would have taken the blame.
With that said, up 14-0 in the second quarter would have been a perfect time to run a series of hurry up with 3-4 wides in the game to build some confidence.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:42 pm to jbrau22
Best analysis I've sent yet, and spot on.
I agree 110%!
I agree 110%!
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:26 pm to BrerTiger
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But yeah, right now Harris mostly needs confidence. He's definitely got loads of talent.
The talent needs to be exploited a little more.
71 yards is not gonna get it done in most of the games we have coming up.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:41 pm to LACountyTiger
And for all those saying there weren't enough passes called, Brandon harris said that there were more called. He chose to be cautious himself and who could blame him? He did not want to lose the starting position... probably for good if he had another night like Auburn '14
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:56 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Someone on here that actually thinks. I really like your position of a ground game giving our D needed resting time.
I also think this was not the atmosphere or game for BH to make any mistakes in the air. I am glad they are looking at his long term, long haul for this guy.
Overall, and under the circumstances, I think it went well. I will take a "W" on a road game with no warm up any day.
I also think this was not the atmosphere or game for BH to make any mistakes in the air. I am glad they are looking at his long term, long haul for this guy.
Overall, and under the circumstances, I think it went well. I will take a "W" on a road game with no warm up any day.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:11 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I simply don't get why some people think throwing the ball a few more times a game, especially on first or second downs would mean less rushing yards for Fournette or whomever. I would venture to say that it would probably mean more yards on fewer carries which is not a bad thing as the season wears on.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:14 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
1. Mix up the plays and Fournette is even more effective
2. Predictable running into walls = too many 3 and outs, which = tired D.
3. Mississippi St struggles against the pass, we should have abused them. Auburn is the exact same thing. They struggle against the pass.. but maybe we will exploit that at home.
2. Predictable running into walls = too many 3 and outs, which = tired D.
3. Mississippi St struggles against the pass, we should have abused them. Auburn is the exact same thing. They struggle against the pass.. but maybe we will exploit that at home.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:25 pm to ianfson1
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I simply don't get why some people don't understand why throwing the ball a few more times a game, especially on first or second downs would mean less rushing yards for Fournette or whomever. I would venture to say that it would probably mean more yards on fewer carries which is not a bad thing as the season wears on.
I would venture to say that most people do believe this. But there are some here that know that Miles will air it out (see 2013) when he believes the passing game is proficient and there is a minimal chance to hurt us, and these same people know that an ugly conference win is wayyyyy better than an entertaining conference loss. But that's just a 'jock sniffer's' opinion.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:27 pm to tjohn deaux
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then wear down the opponent and the clock with an
Why? Why do we give a single frick about the clock? We should want them out there LONGER. LSU 9/10 has more depth than who they play, so the longer it goes, the better. The running out the clock bullshite is for the shite teams that clearly know they're outclassed, or if they're winning its only a matter of time before their opponent comes back.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:29 pm to Meldedee
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And for all those saying there weren't enough passes called, Brandon harris said that there were more called. He chose to be cautious himself and who could blame him? He did not want to lose the starting position... probably for good if he had another night like Auburn '14
No. Just no. Brandon Harris does not have the power to check out of plays. The coaches signaling the entire game give that information. If he doesn't listen to those signals, then yes he'd probably get yanked.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:31 pm to tiggerthetooth
There's video of him changing at least one play on his own. But I guess you know more than Harris 
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:31 pm to CWGriswald
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I would venture to say that most people do believe this. But there are some here that know that Miles will air it out (see 2013) when he believes the passing game is proficient and there is a minimal chance to hurt us, and these same people know that an ugly conference win is wayyyyy better than an entertaining conference loss. But that's just a 'jock sniffer's' opinion.
What did you see about Harris that makes you feel like he was going to hurt us? I thought he looked fine. What hurt us was too many 3 and outs-- it nearly led to disaster. But is that kind of "hurt" ok? I just don't understand the logic.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:39 pm to LACountyTiger
Agree with LACounty Tiger and to that point -
LSU’s final three possessions of the first half ended in punts — a trend of what would come. Eight of the Tigers’ final nine drives ended in punts as the Tigers struggled to put the ball in the air.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:44 pm to BrerTiger
Agree on all and especially the point about the effect not allowing him to pass has on his confidence.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:22 pm to RedTigerRulz
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We were mixing the pass and run nicely in the first half..thus 21-6.
I don't know about this. When we scored our last TD it was on a long drive that only had one pass, if I remember correctly. I'll give you 14-0, but the 21 came from a run intensive drive.
I DO believe we should have mixed it up more.
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