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re: Herb Tyler explains why LSU football has struggled to find a QB
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:03 pm to luvlsufootball
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:03 pm to luvlsufootball
Can you say decision making is huge for a QB?
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:04 pm to CalTiger53
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Can you say decision making is huge for a QB?
"Yes WE Can"
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:10 pm to luvlsufootball
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“Brandon came in with everything on his shoulders,” Tyler said. “His talent speaks for itself. Yeah, he can throw the ball, and he can make certain passes, and he can run a little bit. But you know what? You’ve got to put your team in a certain situation. … I think Brandon Harris can be successful. (But) I think his time here at LSU is probably done.”
ok. That's reasonable.
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Etling was given a chance to survive and thrive because the fans put no expectations on him. Harris was expected by the coaches and fans to be LSU’s savior from Day 1. That might just be a product of the monster created by modern-day recruiting. Quarterbacks are either expected to come in and fix everything or be banished to Elba, never to be seen or heard from again.
meh. Etling succeeded (to the degree he did which wasn't a huge amount of success) because he was able to execute much more of the offense than Harris was. He did have less pressure, but the pressure Harris had was tied to the season last year (where he had less pressure and was given time to improve but never did) and to Miles' issues.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:10 pm to luvlsufootball
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Whitey trying to keep the black man down. I do agree there was very little development under the old regime. The race card pulled though, come on man
I must have missed that in the article.....
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:16 pm to lsutigermall
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I think it was BH who started without many expecations. I remember things like, '...if he can just keep from handing off in the wrong direction.
FIFY
I kid I kid
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:20 pm to wildtigercat93
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longer lease
Yeah, man, you lock in those lower monthly rates when you go long-term on your lease. It's just a good idea if you know you're going to live somewhere for a long time. Maybe the same principle applies to starting quarterbacks as well.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:25 pm to luvlsufootball
Nobody expected Harris to be a savior they just expected him not to suck but he did. Etling didn't suck so he got the job.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:48 pm to FightinTiga
Sounds like he's doing a little Hatin' on Etling.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:49 pm to prepsportsallday
would make sense if all QB with high expectations failed
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:53 pm to luvlsufootball
I do think there should be an open competition for the job. I trust this group to put the best guy on the field more so than last the group of coaches, even if there's a package in there for a second QB or whatever.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:03 pm to luvlsufootball
I disagree, if a QB needs to be in a low pressure situation to be successful then they're not a good quarterback. And age isn't an excuse, there are way to many freshmen and redshirt freshmen quarterbacks running around doing amazing things for there to be any sort of reasonable argument that LSU needs to expect the sort of QB play that we've seen from the incoming quarterbacks we've had over the last 7ish years.
I'm not asking for a Johnny Football type Heisman winning freshman season, just a frigging average freshman season.
I still think it was 100% a coaching issue, but if pressure was a problem then that specific quarterback was done before he started.
I'm not asking for a Johnny Football type Heisman winning freshman season, just a frigging average freshman season.
I still think it was 100% a coaching issue, but if pressure was a problem then that specific quarterback was done before he started.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:05 pm to luvlsufootball
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“Brandon came in with everything on his shoulders,”
bullshite. AJ was supposed to improve and BH would eventually take his spot. As far as BH "feeling the pressure"-he did all of that shite to himself with his, "I was born for this"(first start, on the road, at Jordan-Hare, at night) & "I have the best arm in America" comments.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:10 pm to luvlsufootball
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Tyler said LSU did a poor job of adequately developing quarterbacks.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:18 pm to wildtigercat93
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You can't deny that Etling got a much longer lease
Harris was given every opportunity to succeed. Its not on the staff when a qb cant even complete passes that are meant to get him in rythym.
Ive never seen a qb with such a beautiful deep ball not be able to hit the broad side of the barn on short passes.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Its not on the staff when a qb cant even complete passes that are meant to get him in rythym.
I think it is partially the staff's fault. Like the OP says, these coaches weren't developing these qbs properly.
I mean whose fault is it when all our QBs were underdeveloped? The last time we had a good QB he was a juco transfer who didn't really need development.
I agree that the QBs have to step-up, but Les hadn't had a decent QB coach/coordinator since Jimbo. Well at least not one he actually let run the offense like they saw fit.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:30 pm to wildtigercat93
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You can't deny that Etling got a much longer lease and less pressure to perform than any of the other starters since Mett
I disagree. I think BHarris was given a long leash as well. Brandon just came to the end of the leash. His throws were so inaccurate it was pitiful. No touch on screens, etc. Etling made those plays and the Offense flourished. Etling didn't need as long a leash as Brandon got.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:32 pm to Tiger Tracker
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I think it is partially the staff's fault
Outside of some footwork tweeks, accuracy isnt something you can coach.
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Like the OP says, these coaches weren't developing these qbs properly.
Mett and Jlee got better over their careers.
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I mean whose fault is it when all our QBs were underdeveloped?
They haven't been.
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The last time we had a good QB he was a juco transfer who didn't really need development.
You have got to be kidding. A qb that has never taken a snap in fbs football didnt need development? Also, check out the huge gap between his 2012 production and his 2013 production.
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Well at least not one he actually let run the offense like they saw fit.
Surely you dont believe that bullshite rant myth that we have been running the same offense during Miles' entire tenure.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:33 pm to eddieray
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I do think there should be an open competition for the job.
I fully agree but there is a lot to be said for experience as well. There's no stat for it it's vital
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:36 pm to luvlsufootball
God damn I can't wait to see competent QB play at LSU again 
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