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re: Hanagriff - "The scheme is bordering on ridiculous."
Posted on 10/12/14 at 6:35 am to Hot Carl
Posted on 10/12/14 at 6:35 am to Hot Carl
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Other than that, zero QB production from one of the top schools in the SEC. I want some of Les' nut hugging sunshine pumpers to explain that.
I'm not exactly a sunshine pumper, but Miles has tried to bring top-rated QBs to school--Perrileux, Zach Lee, Gunner Kiel. It's not like every single QB he's recruited has been shite. Still, the ones who have become Tigers, excepting Mettenberger:
• Have not been lower tier SEC QBs
• Take an unusually long time to grasp the game at the SEC level
Those things I'll grant.
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:28 am to Tigerwaffe
I guess the thing that bothers me is what do they practice on all week? The 1st 2 series look like a high school team. Disorganized. I don't know if it is the QB's ability or simply a lack of preparation. The initial series in a game should be scripted and practice relentlessly.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:29 am to Cs
Its all true. Luckily a couple turnovers and a drop...the kind of things this team needs, happened. Run game finally clicked but if those things dont happen its first half wisconsin all over again.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:34 am to Cs
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The playcalling is mind numbingly conservative, and I don't know why they brought Cameron in, because anyone could do what he's doing for far less than 1.3 million dollars."
"The passing game is so antiquated that they can't use it."
It says alot about how Les doesn't trust the QBs no matter how talented they are. I've seen peewee teams with more plays on offense.
The sad part is I love CLM and in some ways I like his coaching style. He truly believes in his team and thinks they are gonna win every game no matter the score. The players feed off that and I think that's why we have so many comebacks.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:41 am to Cs
No turnovers. I don't know what he expects Cam to be able to do. They threw it all over the yard last year. He just doesn't have a QB to do that with this year, coupled with very young receivers.
The offense scored 30 points on the road at UF. I'm actually amazed they are getting the production they are out of this group.
The offense scored 30 points on the road at UF. I'm actually amazed they are getting the production they are out of this group.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:42 am to offshoretrash
Cant blame them for not trusting jennings after the NM state shite show. Did like them getting him on the move. Outside of the third and california he wasawful throwing from the pocket. Both guys need to improve there andcwe need a route tree designed to allow the qb to make a quick choice and throw. Spread it out more. We arent bound by steel chastity belts to the fricking i form. Shoddy pass pro and two man routes is begging for bad qb play. Got to put the guys in position to succeed.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:43 am to trooploop
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The offense scored 30 points on the road at UF
The O-line played a great game and they finally figured out they could run somewhere other than right up the middle.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 7:47 am to Hot Carl
Cam's been here to recruit one QB on the roster. I happen to think Brandon Harris is going to be very good. God forbid he isn't excelling as a true freshman. If we think that Brandon Harris is a recruiting miss then that's on Cam. I certainly don't think he's a miss.
If Cam came in last year and did nothing with Mett I'd be concerned. Obviously that wasn't the case.
If Cam came in last year and did nothing with Mett I'd be concerned. Obviously that wasn't the case.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:12 am to Stevo
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We have no functionable QB. Have to work within that limitation.
That's a terrible argument. It is the truth, but then again, that falls back to the head coach for not having at least one quarterback ready to play. And this isn't the first year this has been the case.
Furthermore, LSU has played seven games now. At what point does the "young, inexperienced" excuse quit being used?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:15 am to lsuohiofan
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I guess the thing that bothers me is what do they practice on all week? The 1st 2 series look like a high school team. Disorganized. I don't know if it is the QB's ability or simply a lack of preparation. The initial series in a game should be scripted and practice relentlessly.
I agree with all of this.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:17 am to Cs
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I honestly don't understand this fanbase. Florida is one of the worst teams in the SEC, and they essentially gift wrapped the game for us tonight. Yet, because we won, half the fanbase wants to act like our previous problems have suddenly been resolved, when, once again, we won despite displaying the exact same deficiencies.
Great post. The only two things this win did was put LSU one game closer to being bowl-eligible and it also helped LSU avoid the bagel (otherwise known as the Arkansas) in the SEC for the year.
Otherwise, this team is as done as five-day-old toast in the SEC West race, and that's all that really matters at LSU. If you're out of the division race in September, it's a bad season.
But Miles should be happy. With a 1-2 conference record and five games left, LSU is still in the hunt for the 1975 Big Ten title.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 8:19 am
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:20 am to cheo25
I like your style
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:21 am to trooploop
While I believe Harris is more talented and the better passer by far, it seems that Jennings is their choice in the short term. He has shown that he CANNOT produce from the pocket or dropping back. He HAS however had at least some success rolling out with MORE than one option(completions Jones & Quinn & a TE I think).
More frustrating than the 'conservative' approach was continually dropping him back to either just throw it up for grabs or take drive killing sacks. With time and 3 or 4 options to throw to, he has consisently shown he cannot be successful in the pocket.
More frustrating than the 'conservative' approach was continually dropping him back to either just throw it up for grabs or take drive killing sacks. With time and 3 or 4 options to throw to, he has consisently shown he cannot be successful in the pocket.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:25 am to Melvin
Why the number one recruited receiver in the country would come to this team baffles me. I can see why the louisiana grown quarterback for Miss St. went there and not to LSU.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:28 am to pointman
I guess we already forgot about the TWO 1,000-yard receivers way back in...2013.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:29 am to Cs
I don't get the heavy-set formation and play-action for 1 WR/1 TE route. Sometimes it's max protect for that 1 WR bomb. I just don't get Miles. He does win though.. unfortunately I'm thinking all those wins are purely from talent.. not because he's smart or a good coach. LF7 did get the majority of the carries and Miles didn't have the play-sheet in his hands the entire game.. I guess we got that working for us I guess.
We're never going to give our QBs confidence or experience if we just throw on 3rd down. We need an opening series were we pass 2-3 times. Bubble screens, WR screens, RB flares and swings- you telling me our QBs don't know how to throw those? Little shite like that makes a difference to spread out the D and gives the QB confidence. That stubborn run game isn't going to work every single time.. It works last night and you are praising for his 100th win (congrats) but when it doesn't the pitchforks will be out again.
We're never going to give our QBs confidence or experience if we just throw on 3rd down. We need an opening series were we pass 2-3 times. Bubble screens, WR screens, RB flares and swings- you telling me our QBs don't know how to throw those? Little shite like that makes a difference to spread out the D and gives the QB confidence. That stubborn run game isn't going to work every single time.. It works last night and you are praising for his 100th win (congrats) but when it doesn't the pitchforks will be out again.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:39 am to Cs
The play calling is horrendous. It's not just the pass calls either. Most of our run schemes are just awful as well. It's like we win in spite of coaching. We had 0 turnovers because we took no chances. We were just fortunate Florida cannot convert when it counts. I'm glad for the win though. The players fought hard and need some confidence moving forward.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:45 am to OneFifty
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While I believe Harris is more talented and the better passer by far, it seems that Jennings is their choice in the short term. He has shown that he CANNOT produce from the pocket or dropping back. He HAS however had at least some success rolling out with MORE than one option(completions Jones & Quinn & a TE I think).
This is what's so frustrating. We are thinking short term instead of long term in a REBUILDING season. I don't care how bad harris played at Auburn. He should be the starting going forward.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:46 am to trooploop
Congratulations to the Players!!
Miles: "Wow, what a game". Kind of like It's A Wonderful Life where the refs give you extra time to kick a field goal. It should have and could have been a dominant win from start to finish.
Quote from "Criticizing Miles" ATVS before the game
Quote from ATVS after the Game
AJ Stats: 10/21 119 yds 47% by far the lowest QB rating, completion %, and yds/game in the SEC
Harris stats still make him the #1 ranked Passer in the entire SEC. He "can throw it all over the yard" and has to 12 different receivers and has 3 rushing TDs on top of that a real NFL arm. He sat on the bench. Talent is excellent and not an excuse "it's the coaches and total lack of innovative play calling."
Miles: "Wow, what a game". Kind of like It's A Wonderful Life where the refs give you extra time to kick a field goal. It should have and could have been a dominant win from start to finish.
Quote from "Criticizing Miles" ATVS before the game
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Yet, we're often hoping our QBs can not turn the ball over and throw for 100 yards and we'll call it "enough." Why are our standards so low?
Quote from ATVS after the Game
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Anthony Jennings got the start, and all of the snaps, and proceeded to show little of why Miles has placed so much faith in him. He threw for 110 yards on 10 for 21. At least he took care of the ball and didn't throw any picks.
AJ Stats: 10/21 119 yds 47% by far the lowest QB rating, completion %, and yds/game in the SEC
Harris stats still make him the #1 ranked Passer in the entire SEC. He "can throw it all over the yard" and has to 12 different receivers and has 3 rushing TDs on top of that a real NFL arm. He sat on the bench. Talent is excellent and not an excuse "it's the coaches and total lack of innovative play calling."
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:54 am to SEC Grapevine
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AJ Stats: 10/21 119 yds 47% by far the lowest QB rating, completion %, and yds/game in the SEC
did you go through the stat lines for SEC QB's yesterday?
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