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re: Hanagriff - "The scheme is bordering on ridiculous."

Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:05 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:05 am to
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and yep, you fell into the trap I am talking about. Our offense also looked like deep fried dog shite wrapped in bacon.


It was. Defense and special teams created field position advantages and scored points all season long.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56687 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:06 am to
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Yet, because we won, half the fanbase wants to act like our previous problems have suddenly been resolved, when, once again, we won despite displaying the exact same deficiencies.



Uh, we ran the ball a hell of a lot better last night.

And, we were adequate at stopping their run game.

Both of those are improvements.

I don't think we have more than 1 or 2 wins on the schedule.

Half of our fan base is whining because they just can't accept that the major issues aren't going to solve themselves this season. Accept it. It's a given.
Posted by TigerEggs
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
622 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:07 am to
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BOOM........

HaniGriff is an over weight radio jocky. You (OP) put your faith in him?? Well considering you want LSU to run a spread with our middle school QB that started last night you've answered my question. Did you ever think Jennings can't do any more than what we run??? No I'm sure you (OP) didnt.


I don't give 2 shits if they are running an offense that "is all Jennings can handle". It's still the staff's fault for putting this horrible offense in the field. We had Jennings, Harris, rettig, and rivers, and this is the best option we have and the best scheme we can run?

Does that make it ok because they are giving Jennings all he can handle? HELL NO. The highest paid staff in the country with a stable head coach should be more prepared and better equipped than this.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:10 am to
The only time the pros run a one wide receiver set is in goal line or shirt yardage, not third and 12 from the thirty
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:10 am to
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Ole miss beat us last year with about 8-9 freshman playing on defense against our veteran offense. The youth excuse is shite nowadays for college football


And they went 8-5 (3-5) last year. Midway through the season the youth excuse isn't as relevant, but well we are just now getting to that point.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:12 am to
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The youth excuse is shite nowadays for college football



Agree.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76546 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:12 am to
Unless LSU had an NFL QB with NFL WRs, all of whom must be juniors or seniors, the passing game doesn't function. Its the biggest problem.
Posted by TigerEggs
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
622 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:15 am to
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We have no functionable QB. Have to work within that limitation.


Im so tired of hearing this. Like Les is doing us some kind of favor.

Someone, anyone, answer a simple question... Whose fault is it that we have no functional QB?

There is one answer, it's very simple, and that's all people are pissed about. It's not Jennings, Harris, etc. fault
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:22 am to
Rettig transfers because of they are "going to a more mobile qb style type of offense...." RUN I-FORMATION. The coaching staff and philosophy is contradicting with the players and talent they recruit. Dillon Gordon (like 300lbs?) is basically an extended tackle.

And again, congrats on the 100th win with the same scheme (6 weeks straight no deviation) and talent. I hope it continues to get better. I wish youth would stop being an excuse. You have a veteran line. All true-freshman players are capable of starting on any team in the country.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:22 am to
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And they went 8-5 (3-5) last year. Midway through the season the youth excuse isn't as relevant, but well we are just now getting to that point.


Ole Miss and Auburn both were running out of scholarship players a couple of years ago and now are at or near the top of the SEC.

LSU theoretically has had a recruiting advantage over Ole Miss in the past and should develop young talent every year so you don't have inexperienced guys having to step in and play. When the old talent leaves, someone prepared steps in. I'd say our recruiting rankings have been very overrated in the past or the staff just can't develop the talent.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20403 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:23 am to
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This is the type of play calling that wins football games


1 out 3 in the SEC isn't bad I guess.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:25 am to
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This is the type of play calling that wins football games


Posted by Dynamis
Member since Sep 2006
661 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:32 am to
It's not the kids, it's the coach. Lsu recruits premium players at every position on offense and most years delivers what we are seeing this year.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:33 am to
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I'd say our recruiting rankings have been very overrated in the past or the staff just can't develop the talent.


more of a case of attrition catching up to them. The change in recruiting tactics by several of the top teams to insure you're signing 25 guys every year, on top of the NFL early exits, has put the team behind the 8-ball. That's one reason I'm glad we're seeing Godchaux, Clark, Adams and others getting time now, vs. juniors who haven't played as much. Experience is the biggest factor in having success.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:35 am to
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It's not the kids, it's the coach. Lsu recruits premium players at every position on offense and most years delivers what we are seeing this year.


You have to adapt to the times, I think Les is doing that this year. This is why the younger guys are getting quality time.

Three and gone should be the expectation now. Develop them early so you can "reload."
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56490 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:38 am to
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players are successful (see 2013) it's all the players. If the players struggle it's all the fault of the coaches.
huh, we are talking the PASSING game, and do you feel our routes that favor long and medium routes, relying heavily on sideline routes are the best use of our receivers and QB talent combinations?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:49 am to
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huh, we are talking the PASSING game, and do you feel our routes that favor long and medium routes, relying heavily on sideline routes are the best use of our receivers and QB talent combinations?


I've about decided that's the only pass Jennings can throw on a consistent basis.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4785 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:50 am to
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7095 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:56 am to
This scheme has lost to MSU and AU- it's going to lose to Bama , ole miss and maybe Arkansas.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4785 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
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This scheme has lost to MSU and AU- it's going to lose to Bama , ole miss and maybe Arkansas.



yep miles and his i-formation.
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