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re: Grading Coach O since he was hired as HC

Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
1322 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:09 pm to
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so its too soon to give grades.


I tend to the agree with this.
Keeping Aranda and getting Canada and Tommie Robinson were good moves
the signing class was great given the circumstances
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:10 pm to
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I will never understand how you guys can grade the No. 7 class as anything but an A. Especially when the class addresses our biggest needs.


Agreed. Very difficult to pull in that solid of a class in the position he was in. There could have been a couple of cherries on top that we didn't get but it was a very good class. We pulled 3 of the top 7 players in Texas and got a couple of really good players from Tenn.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:12 pm to
Gameday coaching c plus. Recruiting A minus.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:14 pm to
Grandad, if you think my opinion is wrong, please explain your reasoning instead of your usual grouchy, conclusory pap. Same goes for your theory that Canada was always the No. one choice for OC.
Or do you need facts to support your opinions?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:36 pm to
Too early... He didn't "retain" Standard, the dude was already under contract. Also Canada until he actually calls a game for LSU I reserve judgement. Crowton and Cameron came with a lot of hype as well and faltered. I believe most of the school records came with Crowton as the OC as well.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260356 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:46 pm to
B- overall. Missed out on a couple of high profile commits I think he was all in for, and while he's not the reason LSU lost to Florida, it was on his watch and very disappointing. However, the team seems to have way more energy under his leadership.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:48 pm to
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Very difficult to pull in that solid of a class in the position he was in.


He was the recruiting coordinator before being hired as HC. He has been recruiting these recruits for over a year.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 7:58 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:52 pm to
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for years.


wat???
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:57 pm to
Didnt know he only became the recruiting coordinator in spring of 2016.
My bad.

My point still stands. He has been recruiting these same recruits for over a year.

He isnt coming into a new program where he hasnt been recruiting these recruits.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 7:59 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:58 pm to
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He has been recruiting these same recruits for over a year.



now it makes sense.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:59 pm to
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now it makes sense.



So thats what it feels like to be wrong.

Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10540 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:00 pm to
Many of these recruits had relationships with Les, Cameron, and peveto. Orgeron had to do a lot of damage control and keep the class together, which is very difficult under the circumstances.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:02 pm to
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Orgeron had to do a lot of damage control and keep the class togethe


You have no idea if thats true.
Stop acting like your opinion is a fact.

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which is very difficult under the circumstances.

Its far easier than going into a new program where he doesnt have any kind of relationship with that program's recruits.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:02 pm to
29 downvotes, wow.

What a bunch of fricking degenerate miserable cucks.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10540 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:05 pm to
Well the fact that most classes fall apart during a coaching change leads me to believe it is the truth.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:06 pm to
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What a bunch of fricking degenerate miserable cucks.




The irony is glorious.
You talked shite about Miles for years.
If not liking lsu's head coach makes you a miserable cuck, youre the yahwey of miserable cucks.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:07 pm to
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Well the fact that most classes fall apart during a coaching change leads me to believe it is the truth.



Most classes dont have their recruiting coordinator become a head coach.
He already had relationships with these recruits and every recruit knew miles was on the hot seat and they still committed.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10540 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:12 pm to
He did have an advantage by being on staff already, but to not lose any recruits during the coaching change and finish the way the staff did at positions of need is nothing to take lightly. Most coaches could not do what he did.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:15 pm to
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Well the fact that most classes fall apart during a coaching change leads me to believe it is the truth.


This coaching change wasn't the same as "most" since a coach was promoted from within. The Recruiting Coordinator that had relationships with all of the commits at that.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:18 pm to
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Most coaches could not do what he did.


Go 3-21 in conference play over 3 years at Ole Miss? I don't think anyone else has ever done that, it's quite the accomplishment.
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