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re: Explain the hate for the PMAC, because I don't get it...

Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:02 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57433 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:02 am to
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Go take a look at the skylines of Rome and Florence.

Olmsted Group designed it to be an Italian Renaissance campus.
they might have designed it like that but look at my edit of the previous post, and tell me im wrong.

I understand the observatory and other features are Italian but with every rook spanish tile it is more incandescent of Spanish architecture than pure Italian renaissance.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 11:06 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:05 am to
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they might have designed it like that but look at my edit of the previous post, and tell me im wrong.


You're wrong...


LINK

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Original campus architecture was based on the Renaissance domestic style of northern Italy (tan stucco walls, red tile roofs), with buildings that house most of the classrooms and administrative offices grouped around a double quadrangle and connected by colonnaded passageways.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57433 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:08 am to
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You're wrong...
typical from you. Nothing image wise from Italian Renaissance resembles LSU more than Spanish.

History books also claim Chris Columbus found North American when we all know it was "found" way before his time.

Im not Architectural History guy but the few "Northern Italian homes" i have found look exactly like typical Spanish Colonial.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 11:11 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15176 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:13 am to
Not that long ago it was a total shithole. Thank you, Shaq.

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15176 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:14 am to
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Much worse an architectural monstrosity than the two examples listed above (union or PMAC).


Lockett is an abomination, as well.

The biggest issue I have with Middleton is that it destroyed the Quadrangle.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by LSUfan2008
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
2462 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:20 am to
My wish list for the PMAC:

1. Revamp the fixed seating to give enough leg room.
2. New scoreboard/videoboard
3. Replace ramp setup outside with stairs or escalators inside the concourse (not sure about the specifics on this one)
4. Student entrance should be on the ground level
Posted by Tooncesridesagain
Member since Jan 2015
615 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:23 am to
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Given how proactive LSU has been in adding suites to most of it's most popular facilities


But your thread is based on the premise that no one likes the PMAC, so why would it be upgraded with the rest of the "popular" facilities?

The inside is nice, but Alleva screwed the hard core student fans who usually showed up in respectable numbers when he moved the student section behind the basket.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28310 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:28 am to
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What does this even mean???


...Especially on a campus dominated by Italian Renaissance architecture.

"Outdated"?

Please explain this.


Outdated in the same sense as the cookie-cutter dual-purpose stadiums of the late 60's-70's. i.e. Riverfront Stadium; Jack Murphy Stadium; Three Rivers Stadium, Busch Stadium II, etc. Those stadiums were utilitarian in nature and had no real aesthetically pleasing aspects to them. The PMAC is much the same. No one is designing or building stadiums like that anymore. There has been a complete shift in the opposite direction. It is an outdated design concept.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:29 am to
I forgot about the doors from the arena to the concourse...why are they there?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57433 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:31 am to
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but Alleva screwed the hard core student fans who usually showed up in respectable numbers when he moved the student section behind the basket.
GTFO with this shite, Students should be behind the basket. No reason to give them prime seating on the side.

But The ramps need to go and somehow mirror the stairs on the other side with something fancy in the middle.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101348 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:31 am to
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I forgot about the doors from the arena to the concourse...why are they there?


Helps keep it dark.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:34 am to
I hate them. Get a drink and a hotdog and you're playing concessions Olympics getting back to your seat.
Posted by rthomas628k
natchitoches, louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
157 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 11:48 am to
This is from an LSU fan and USL (UL Lafayette) grad. The post of Dukes Cameron F/H says it all. It's not the arena; it’s the product on the court. When LSU BB is good and the place is packed, the place rocks and provides awesome home court advantage. The seating at court level is very close to the action and that's major for H/C advantage.
I remember how excited I was when Lafayette decided to build the Cajun Dome in the mid 80's after the BB team had such great teams from the late 60's up thru the early 1980's. What I wouldn't give to experience the atmosphere of old Blackham Coliseum with the wooden bench seats and packed with 9K+ fans playing the likes of LA Tech with Karl Malone or a Billy Tubbs coached Lamar team. The Cajun Dome absolutely sucks. The seating is so far away from the court, even with a decent crowd, it's never loud. So be careful what you wish for.
The PMAC is fine. Only thing I agree with is upkeep and maybe other amenities such as modern scoreboard. Remember the “Pit” in NM? Holds 17K+ and all wooden bench seats, but the cool/nostalgia factor is awesome.
The 1986 NCAA regionals at the PMAC with the double overtime win over Perdue followed by the buzzer beater over Memphis State. Now that was loud. So let’s concentrate on upgrading the team and filling the seats before we even begin to gripe about the facility.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15648 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:01 pm to
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no Have you seen the crumbling paint that is scabbing off the roof?
so tear it down because it needs s paint job? That's funny stuff right there!
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40113 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Explain the hate for the PMAC, because I don't get it...


Why I want it replaced:
1. It is an oval seating arangement
2. We are starting to fall behind in the the arena arms race
3. no freaking legroom
4. it is ugly as shite
5. It has no place for premium seats
6. It is too large
It is a great venue when it is packed, but with better tv and the recent subpar level of the program it has regressed. I would love to have an arena like Pitt's or Mizzou's.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:22 pm to
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no freaking legroom


This has been posted 10 times, but does anyone actually think this would get fixed in a new arena? Or is that why people are so obsessed with suites?
Posted by lil tiger22
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2005
5997 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:25 pm to
They revamped the entire arena 10 years ago or so and put in new seats and they made the leg room even worse! That's my only issues with the PMAC. As a season ticket holder and huge basketball supporter I want to have packed houses every game but man does it get cramped in there.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40113 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:27 pm to
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This has been posted 10 times, but does anyone actually think this would get fixed in a new arena? Or is that why people are so obsessed with suites?


Theoritcally if they reduced the # of seats in a new arena they could have more room/seat but they probably won't. I doubt I ever pay for a suite at any sporting event.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18638 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:37 pm to
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Other than that, it's the possiblity of moving the media section and making the Student section the entire behind the basket. Would be much better.
THANK YOU. The media section can really kill off some of the vibe. Don't move it, get rid of it. Those goofballs are just doing shite on twitter anyways. Sit in the upper decks and use your phones you damn hippies.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67064 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:43 pm to
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Middleton needs to be torn down to open the quad back up.


Middleton and Kirby Smith are the two biggest detractors from the embiance of LSU at present. Kirby is coming down in the next couple years, but I have a feeling that Middleton will collapse and crumble to dust long before LSU ever decides to tear it down and replace it. Go to other major state schools like Kentucky, Ohio State, Arizona State, Alabama, ect. Look at their libraries compared to ours. Middleton is an absolute travesty. When I wanted a book at LSU, I generally had to go to a BR Library. EBRPLS is so vastly superior, it's not even funny.
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