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DC Matt House - unpopular take

Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:49 am
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:49 am
Disclaimer - I got no sauces and looking at this from a 40,000 ft view.

TL;DR - House gets year 3 of his contract

Coming into 2023, the future was bright for House and his defense. He had demonstrated that he could adjust mid game in his first season and his acquisitions thru the portal appeared to have potential.

Then disaster strikes weeks before the season and you lose a pivotal position coach. Your HC opts to put a S/T coordinator as DL coach. Then lightning strikes again and you lose your stronger CB to injury in fall camp. Your HC refuses to let you play a highly touted transfer (DH) and so you have to rely on a smaller transfer (Duce) who ultimately decides to ride the pine after a few weeks and preserve his redshirt (hardship transfer inbound - speculative). Lightning strikes again and you lose your secondary leader due to a rare brain tumor. Weeks later, lightning strikes again and your last stud CB goes down due to injury. Your reserves comprise of booger eating freshmen (speculation on the booger eating part) and a boss who subscribes to a seniority over talent mindset.

As we approach the end of the season, LSU has a weak ish secondary/DL class abd a staff change threatens this. I think House gets to change out a few position coaches and hopefully recognizes they need an absolute stud recruiter. Best case scenario is that we can jump sooner than later on position coaches during the turnover season, and they bring som studs with em.

CBK is just as much to blame for this as House (opinion) and has coach spoken that he is pleased with the progress relative to resources available. Additionally, 9-3 isn’t a big enough step back to risk a thin recruiting cycle.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:52 am to
The things you said happened to House to make his job harder, did indeed happen.

However, the defense hasn't just looked young, there has been poor game planning (which has been admitted in the post-mortem PCs), the players who played last year have regressed with their fundamentals, and there has been a complete absence of mid-game adjustments.

I was a House defender until Alabama. Unbelievably poor game plan.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:54 am to
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However, the defense hasn't just looked young, there has been poor game planning


This has been hardest to watch....

All summer for FSU....Ole Miss we couldn't stop a cold, and Bama.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:55 am to
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I was a House defender until Alabama. Unbelievably poor game plan.


I agree, but don’t think he’s been given complete control. I also remember what he pulled off year one without all the injuries.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:57 am to
When we didn't put a spy on Monroe, I lost all faith in his ability to coach appropriately. I don't care what the game plan was, react to what is happening on the field and at least try to stop the QB from running all over you.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:58 am to
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I agree, but don’t think he’s been given complete control. I also remember what he pulled off year one without all the injuries.


So which is it? He had control and gets credit for year 1 or he has less control and gets less blame for year 2?

We have players on this defense that played significant minutes last year that look objectively worse. Worse tackling, worse shedding blocks, worse at gap discipline, worse at using leverage, etc.

We look very poorly coached on that side of the ball.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:58 am to
I don’t think CBK is the type to react to single instances of failure.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:59 am to
All of these things are bad, no doubt; but that should not translate to a 100+ defensive ranking for LSU. Ever.

The schemes have been bad; the tackling has been awful; and the development/improvement? Well there’s been none that I can see.

House can’t figure out how to use the personnel we have. Perkins disappeared and Weeks has been MIA. And let’s say it again: there’s been no improvement.

House needs to go.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:59 am to
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a boss who subscribes to a seniority over talent mindset.



There are a lot of examples of this not being the case.

But by all means, "subtly" blame BK for more of House's failings.

Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:00 am to
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House gets year 3 of his contract


frick…THAT…shite
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:00 am to
I don’t disagree.

Consider where we’d be without all of the injuries.

Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:01 am to
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a boss who subscribes to a seniority over talent mindset.

That is a problem
quote:

House gets year 3 of his contract

Under no circumstance should he remain. period.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13496 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:02 am to
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there’s been no improvement.


This is so hard to watch as well. If we would get marginally better at one or two things every week, I'd be in OPs camp. We haven't gotten better at anything.

Florida had 500 yards of offense and over 6 ypp. They are not a good offense. That is obscene and inexcusable.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:03 am to
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a boss who subscribes to a seniority over talent mindset.


There are a lot of examples of this not being the case.


Yeah this is a complete fricking myth. Kelly plays underclassmen all over the place.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:03 am to
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But by all means, "subtly" blame BK for more of House's failings



Do you think House is opting to keep Harris on the bench in lieu of whoever he has out there?

It’s name blaming if it’s a system standard. It’s making an argument for him being retained.
Posted by LSUTigerFan1996
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2016
257 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:04 am to
House is not 100% responsible, but he and the defensive staff are 90% responsible. Perkins has regressed, Wingo regressed, and Maason Smith has regressed. Why is that? Perkins and Wingo were All-Americans last year. You don’t get worse overnight. That’s coaching. Players constantly out of position and missing tackles is coaching. Having more talented players on the bench, like Weeks, because they supposedly don’t know the scheme is coaching. Denver Harris doesn’t know zone defense, but he’s a lockdown man-to-man corner. Adapt the scheme to your players. DBs constantly having their backs turned when the ball in the air is coaching. LSU does not have a severe lack of talent on the defensive side. At worst, they should be statistically average based on talent.

The ENTIRE defensive staff needs to go. They all suck.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by MicahTiger
Member since Dec 2021
300 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:05 am to
Seniority over talent mindset statement is false regarding Kelly.

I hate that we weren't prepared against Alabama. Losing to Ole Miss and Florida St...meh

With the run game we have now, we'd beat Florida St if played again. Almost feels like the Ole Miss game was when we realized there was no stopping this offense.

Maybe we get Pete in here sooner? Maybe things look better?

The DBs look young and inexperienced aside of Major...they all are young and inexperienced aside of Major (15 playing a new position does factor in) idk man...it's just tough. They don't look like the worst position group on defense... I too think that House was not given a fair shot to improve on Year 1 with the hand that was dealt. But I didn't think it would be this bad. You clean House, you lose all continuity with incoming class and loaded 25/26 Louisiana class. Slippery slope with any decision regarding the defense right now.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:05 am to
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Do you think House is opting to keep Harris on the bench in lieu of whoever he has out there?



Harris has not been good, at all, when he's seen the field.

And if he's breaking team rules, which he has a history of, then that is not acceptable.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13496 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:06 am to
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Perkins and Wingo were All-Americans last year.


Wingo has looked pretty damn good when healthy and playing. He was a force against FSU.
Posted by Addison Tiger
Antwerp, Belgium
Member since Jul 2005
640 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:06 am to
If the defense had some bad moments then I could see this argument. However, the defense wasn't just bad, it was historically bad and bad when you compare it to just about every other FBS team. You can't argue this when teams like Vanderbilt have an easier time stopping offenses. Even with everything that's happened, you can't tell me that all these other FBS teams that can hold Ole Miss under 55 points have better players than us. He came into the season with the defense completely unprepared and that's unacceptable.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 10:08 am
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