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re: DC Matt House - unpopular take

Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:07 am to
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:07 am to
I want the entire defensive staff gone but I also have a feeling that BK is not going to make any changes and will cite continuity and injuries.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44585 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:09 am to
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Do you think House is opting to keep Harris on the bench in lieu of whoever he has out there?



I think Harris is much more a disciplinary issue than a seniority thing.

Matter of fact, Harris took over for an older player (Duce).

And when Denver didn't get the start vs Ole Miss, guess who did? True freshman Ashton Stamps.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13732 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:11 am to
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I want the entire defensive staff gone but I also have a feeling that BK is not going to make any changes and will cite continuity and injuries.



There is a 0% chance he makes no changes on the defensive staff. I could see Cooks and DL coach being gone at the very least.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18777 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:13 am to
So youre saying BK is meddling on the defense? That’s lazy. House has done nothing proactively. Hell it took Kiffen to wonder out loud why Perkins wasn’t playing the first half for that to take form. Sure Bk might be saying things like “you probably want to play Perkins if you want to keep your job
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24689 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:15 am to
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DL coach being gone at the very least.



This is the only reason I think he cans House. He can’t fire Lindsey due to medical issues. That’s a huge lawsuit waiting to happen. Pretty sure there is a clause to pay out Lindsey contract if DC is replaced.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13732 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:18 am to
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This is the only reason I think he cans House. He can’t fire Lindsey due to medical issues. That’s a huge lawsuit waiting to happen.



Sure he can. That's ridiculous. You can do a ton of creative things. Pay out his contract and make him an analyst. Long term medical leave. Etc.

If you can't perform your job due to illness, it is not a law the employer has to keep you in that job and not hire a replacement. You realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4367 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:20 am to
I am pretty confident that House is gone…

But, we aren’t in the coaches meetings. If House has been calling all the correct defensive plays and our players just can’t execute, then it may be more of a personnel issue rather than a coaching issue.

Basically if BK thinks the X’s and O’s are there, but we don’t have the Jimmy and Joes, then House may get another year.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13732 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:22 am to
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Basically if BK thinks the X’s and O’s are there, but we don’t have the Jimmy and Joes, then House may get another year.


Part of House's job responsibility is also getting the Jimmies and Joes. He has been a very poor recruiter.

Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24689 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:23 am to
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If you can't perform your job due to illness


FMLA laws, baw.

You’re being naive to think CBK wouldn’t have already done this for recruiting alone. If legal would’ve let him. It’s a cluster.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18320 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:23 am to
House is a complete POS incompetent that never should have even been interviewed. How long did the $100 M coach take to decide on hiring this idiot?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9001 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:26 am to
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DC Matt House - unpopular take
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House gets year 3 of his contract


No. Just no.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:27 am to
Injuries happen for every team. A drop off can be expected, but to have the worst defense in college football, it’s inexcusable.

At the beginning of the season, he had some of those players that can’t play now. And gave up a ton of yards to Grambling in the first half, ran through the first string defense like a hot knife through butter.

Again, inexcusable.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13732 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:28 am to

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FMLA laws, baw.


I know FMLA very well. We can easily get a replacement for his position.


quote:

You’re being naive to think CBK wouldn’t have already done this for recruiting alone. If legal would’ve let him. It’s a cluster.


A lot harder to hire a great DL coach mid season. He doesn't want to hire a new one for half a season just for recruiting, that revolving door has been constant as-is. If he replaces him, he'll take his time and go after a big fish. And who knows, maybe Kelly thinks he'll be great next year if/when he's back.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44585 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:28 am to
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Basically if BK thinks the X’s and O’s are there, but we don’t have the Jimmy and Joes, then House may get another year.


It gets a bit murky here, because BK will say things that lead you to think it's more player execution than scheme. Not necessarily that we don't have the players, they just aren't doing what they're supposed to.

But if the players aren't executing, how much of that goes back to the coaches teaching them?
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
830 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:29 am to
I agree. House isn’t going anywhere. Crazy string of injuries and bad circumstances affected the defense this year. I think a couple of position coaches are out and, hopefully, some major pickups in recruiting pan out for next year.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7887 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:31 am to
If Kelly does that he is putting his own job at risk.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57531 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:32 am to
Our defense wasn’t prepared to account for Milroe scrambling coming off a bye week. There are no excuses
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
908 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:41 am to
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The things you said happened to House to make his job harder, did indeed happen.

However, the defense hasn't just looked young, there has been poor game planning (which has been admitted in the post-mortem PCs), the players who played last year have regressed with their fundamentals, and there has been a complete absence of mid-game adjustments.

I was a House defender until Alabama. Unbelievably poor game plan.

Agreed and seconded.

I said it in another thread: we may have freshmen and inexperienced 3-stars starting, but they aren't scrubs that would have a hard time starting for Little Rock HS.

There's no excuse for how poorly they were coached up and schemed in the games where they got blown off the field. Yeah, sure, they couldn't compare talent-wise to other teams with 4-5 star talent across the board. That said, there's no excuse for LSU's defense to look worse than Vandy this year.

If you have less talented players, you plan around their deficiencies and use the talent they do have to maximum effect (whatever level that may be).

In my opinion, that didn't happen.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1898 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:41 am to
If we win out and win the bowl game with 10 win seasons back to back it will be very difficult to fire your DC. There should be some coaching changes but I'm just being realistic. Especially with the loss of Brooks and Dline coach early in the year and the injury to Wengo and some important DB's. Not saying the discussion isn't warranted but then you might have an issue hiring someone after firing your DC from a 10-3 team. The defense got stops against Fl when needed and that is not a terrible offense. We gave up 35 points but 14 were given by the refs and a fumbled kickoff. 2019 gave up 28 points so we weren't far off that defense. The other 3 past games we gave up 40 or more points so how bad is this defense compared to those? My biggest issue with the defense has been the lack of PT for weeks. Speights played terrible against FL and why you don't give weeks some PT is beyond me but like I said it not a given House will be replaced this year.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
908 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:45 am to
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I don’t disagree.

Consider where we’d be without all of the injuries.

Most likely, our defense would have been just bad instead of generationally terrible.

Would that have made the difference in a game or two? Maybe. Probably.

But that would have also disguised the real problem, which is coaching and scheming. And that, in turn, would probably have screwed us even further next year.

If a few injured players takes an LSU defense from terrible to just bad, then IMO it's not the players that are lacking....
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