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re: DC Matt House - unpopular take
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:46 am to mcspufftiger7
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:46 am to mcspufftiger7
I think some take my thoughts as support for House. I personally don’t think he’s what we need. I think his scheme is overly complex for SEC ball, but I also just watch the game for what it is.
I’m in favor for whatever lands us the best case scenario while observing what CBK is saying. Tying to keep the melt in check for whenever House comes back.
I’m in favor for whatever lands us the best case scenario while observing what CBK is saying. Tying to keep the melt in check for whenever House comes back.
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:46 am to SloaneRanger
Sorry but that is the problem. Kelly has NO accountability and can do whatever he wants for the next 4 - 6 years.
It would take 2 - 3 losing seasons in a row before LSU did anything about BK.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:51 am to TaderSalad
House could be a gold mine of a DC and you would never know it due to the horrible fundamentals at all levels, injuries, underachievers, inexperience, substandard talent. One big train wreck.
OTOH, what he wants to do on defense in the DT QB era may be so complex, it is not a good fit for what I believe has to become a recruit for the NFL tack for us to keep pace in the NIL world. (What I mean is take kids from LA and fast-track 'em to the NFL such that the NFL becomes our NIL).
But I agree with the OP this is all on CBK and all on CBK to correct.
OTOH, what he wants to do on defense in the DT QB era may be so complex, it is not a good fit for what I believe has to become a recruit for the NFL tack for us to keep pace in the NIL world. (What I mean is take kids from LA and fast-track 'em to the NFL such that the NFL becomes our NIL).
But I agree with the OP this is all on CBK and all on CBK to correct.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:56 am to TaderSalad
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Disclaimer - I got no sauces and looking at this from a 40,000 ft view.
I tend to do the same rather than get caught in all the minutia.
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CBK is just as much to blame for this as House (opinion) and has coach spoken that he is pleased with the progress relative to resources available. Additionally, 9-3 isn’t a big enough step back to risk a thin recruiting cycle.
I tend to agree that BK is partly to blame here. The announcers kind of supported your position Sat night when they were talking about the numbers and experience are so slim that House cant even make adjustments. I can see BK making that “its on me” statement. But in the long run House and his subordinates are directly responsible for the lack of quality recruiting.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:56 am to red sox fan 13
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I want the entire defensive staff gone but I also have a feeling that BK is not going to make any changes and will cite continuity and injuries.
You're nuts if you think BK won't clean house. Did you forget he even showed his buddy Denbrock to the door at ND when the offense was struggling? Kelly knows that when the players lose confidence in their coaches, you've got to make a change even if you think the coach is not the main problem.
Also, BK has a staggeringly good history of hiring defensive coordinators. I think the last 3 or 4 he had at ND ended up getting head coaching jobs. He knows he can do better than House, and money is not an obstacle.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:57 am to TaderSalad
None of that has anything to do with the fact that he always seems to ZERO Gameplan and shows ZERO Ability to make any kind of adjustments.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:01 am to dcw7g
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Also, BK has a staggeringly good history of hiring defensive coordinators. I think the last 3 or 4 he had at ND ended up getting head coaching jobs. He knows he can do better than House, and money is not an obstacle.
Which is all a head scratcher. CBK could have hired a lot of others as DC and went with House. Why? And for someone as experienced as CBK, why didn't he see this coming?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:02 am to TaderSalad
No no no no no.
Fire this retard now.
Fire this retard now.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:05 am to TaderSalad
Too many times the players on Def have all looked completely lost.
Thats coaching and nothing but coaching. Week 1 passed long ago. I hope he is canned.
Thats coaching and nothing but coaching. Week 1 passed long ago. I hope he is canned.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:06 am to TaderSalad
The only guy on the defensive side that I can say might get a pass is Steeples. The cornerbacks have actually played decent despite losing the top 4 options throughout the season. PFF is giving the freshmen around a mid 60 grade each game.
Only concern with steeples is his recruiting, but he literally came in to the job with no experience in the recruiting world, so it’s going to take him some time to figure that out. Brad Davis finished second a lot his first couple seasons too, and now he’s our best recruiter.
Only concern with steeples is his recruiting, but he literally came in to the job with no experience in the recruiting world, so it’s going to take him some time to figure that out. Brad Davis finished second a lot his first couple seasons too, and now he’s our best recruiter.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:15 am to TaderSalad
I disagree with the take that coming into this year the future was “bright”. I think Perkins single handedly won the Arkansas game and the addition of proven SEC commodities Brooks and Foucha gave a false sense of hope. What I saw between the bowl game and the Florida State game was a whole lot of nothing. I saw a complete misuse of Perkins from game to game. I saw no development of House’s position LB’er. I saw House’s handpicked ILB Speights become a huge liability and clearly not a SEC LB’er (which was blatant on Oregon State film).
Bottom line any promise or bright light perceived for House can only be seen in the context of he’s slightly better than Pelini.
Bottom line any promise or bright light perceived for House can only be seen in the context of he’s slightly better than Pelini.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 11:16 am
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:24 am to Tigerfan14
I could see Steeples slide over to ST coordinator and assistant DB coach. He’s getting abused on the recruiting trail with his lack of experience. And, Cooks is an absolute disaster and zero as a recruiter and coach. Bring in a real DB coach who can recruit and develop and Steeples can continue to grow in a role?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:40 am to TaderSalad
No spy the entire Alabama game when you've got Harold frickin Perkins in coverage is grounds for immediate removal.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:44 am to TaderSalad
Matt House got a contract extension over the summer
So he is owed $4 million, not one more year at $1.9 million
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LSU defensive coordinator Matt House and offensive line coach Brad Davis are up for one-year contract extensions and raises, according to the LSU board of supervisors’ meeting agenda. Their new deals are expected to be approved at the meeting Friday.
House would now be under contract through 2025 and earn $2.1 million in the final year of the deal before incentives. His original three-year agreement expired after the 2024 season. He will still make $1.9 million this season and $2 million next year.
So he is owed $4 million, not one more year at $1.9 million
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:59 am to TaderSalad
quote:If you believe this just go look at the LSU stats thread. There is literally zero way a competent DC has LSU ranked where it is in every stat category. Not one bright spot. Surely one could scheme something in some area to overcome roster deficits.
CBK is just as much to blame for this as House (opinion) and has coach spoken that he is pleased with the progress relative to resources available. Additionally, 9-3 isn’t a big enough step back to risk a thin recruiting cycle.
This team gave up 200 yards rushing to Grambling in a half with a QB incapable of completing a forward pass.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:28 pm to TaderSalad
This should stay unpopular. Our defense still has no pulse 10 games into the season.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:44 pm to TaderSalad
I’d like to see the entire defensive staff booted from House on down. Unfortunately, I could see Kelly giving him one more chance and replacing certain position coaches that need new direction.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:08 pm to TaderSalad
Your entire OP is remarkably easy to absolutely dismantle.
He did have some good halftime adjustments last year, yes. I'll give you that.
Yep, that was unfortunate.
Nice attempt at a subtle shot at Kelly. He totes should've hired another d line coach during fall camp. Why didn't he? Oh yeah, probably because most coaches already have teams at that point on the calendar.
1) You have no idea how good JK Johnson is or would've been. Remember when everyone said Nuss was better than Daniels without actually seeing it on the field?
2) Maybe he didn't play said transfer because, and i'll say it loud for the folks in the back, DENVER HARRIS HAS NOT PLAYED WELL AT ANY POINT DURING THIS SEASON! Y'all keep acting like he's the 2nd coming of Pat Pete and he has flat out not been good, at all.
The greg stuff was awful, yes. I think Zy was a nice player, but let's not pretend he was an all conference player here. Calling him a stud was a bit much.
Another shot at Kelly I see. *sigh*
Will Campbell, Kaleb Jackson, Emery Jones, Harold Perkins, etc. If you're good you play. Morons like you annoint and crown these youngs guys and assume that they're good when we haven't seen it yet.
Here's the reality of why your whole post is trash, House has not been good at LSU in 22 or 23. Want prrof? I'm glad you asked.
In 2022 LSU played 9 conference games. They surrendered 16, 17, 40, 35, 20, 31, 10, 38 & 50 pts in those games for a total of 257 pts given up. That averaged out to 29 ppg allowed.
In 2023, LSU has played 7 conference opponents. They've surrendered 14, 31, 55, 39, 18, 42 & 35 pts for a total of 234 pts. That comes out to 33 ppg surrenderred.
In House's two years and 16 SEC contests at LSU, the defense has given up on average of 34 ppg.
That means that on average, Matt House's defenses give up what would fall around 110-117 nationally in PPG in conference games.
Your 40k ft view is cloudy as frick then.
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Coming into 2023, the future was bright for House and his defense. He had demonstrated that he could adjust mid game in his first season and his acquisitions thru the portal appeared to have potential.
He did have some good halftime adjustments last year, yes. I'll give you that.
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Then disaster strikes weeks before the season and you lose a pivotal position coach.
Yep, that was unfortunate.
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Your HC opts to put a S/T coordinator as DL coach.
Nice attempt at a subtle shot at Kelly. He totes should've hired another d line coach during fall camp. Why didn't he? Oh yeah, probably because most coaches already have teams at that point on the calendar.
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Then lightning strikes again and you lose your stronger CB to injury in fall camp. Your HC refuses to let you play a highly touted transfer (DH) and so you have to rely on a smaller transfer (Duce) who ultimately decides to ride the pine after a few weeks and preserve his redshirt (hardship transfer inbound - speculative).
1) You have no idea how good JK Johnson is or would've been. Remember when everyone said Nuss was better than Daniels without actually seeing it on the field?
2) Maybe he didn't play said transfer because, and i'll say it loud for the folks in the back, DENVER HARRIS HAS NOT PLAYED WELL AT ANY POINT DURING THIS SEASON! Y'all keep acting like he's the 2nd coming of Pat Pete and he has flat out not been good, at all.
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Lightning strikes again and you lose your secondary leader due to a rare brain tumor. Weeks later, lightning strikes again and your last stud CB goes down due to injury.
The greg stuff was awful, yes. I think Zy was a nice player, but let's not pretend he was an all conference player here. Calling him a stud was a bit much.
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Your reserves comprise of booger eating freshmen (speculation on the booger eating part) and a boss who subscribes to a seniority over talent mindset.
Another shot at Kelly I see. *sigh*
Will Campbell, Kaleb Jackson, Emery Jones, Harold Perkins, etc. If you're good you play. Morons like you annoint and crown these youngs guys and assume that they're good when we haven't seen it yet.
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As we approach the end of the season, LSU has a weak ish secondary/DL class abd a staff change threatens this. I think House gets to change out a few position coaches and hopefully recognizes they need an absolute stud recruiter. Best case scenario is that we can jump sooner than later on position coaches during the turnover season, and they bring som studs with em.
Here's the reality of why your whole post is trash, House has not been good at LSU in 22 or 23. Want prrof? I'm glad you asked.
In 2022 LSU played 9 conference games. They surrendered 16, 17, 40, 35, 20, 31, 10, 38 & 50 pts in those games for a total of 257 pts given up. That averaged out to 29 ppg allowed.
In 2023, LSU has played 7 conference opponents. They've surrendered 14, 31, 55, 39, 18, 42 & 35 pts for a total of 234 pts. That comes out to 33 ppg surrenderred.
In House's two years and 16 SEC contests at LSU, the defense has given up on average of 34 ppg.
That means that on average, Matt House's defenses give up what would fall around 110-117 nationally in PPG in conference games.
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looking at this from a 40,000 ft view.
Your 40k ft view is cloudy as frick then.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:10 pm to mcspufftiger7
The facts of the matter are what in the frick has the defense done this year to win a game? Absolutely nothing.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:11 pm to SPEEDY
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frick…THAT…shite
Matt House's defenses, on average, give up 5 touchdowns a game in conference play. Thems the numbers.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 2:36 pm
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