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re: Coach O - The "Proof is in the Pudding" Assessment.

Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1520 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:25 pm to
I'm pretty sure he was forced to leave....
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:27 pm to
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Looks like our only realistic hope. I cant believe Im slowly watching the best defensive coach in college football for the next decade slip from our fingers.


What a ridiculous, pessimistic, sour POS you are. Typical LSU "fan".

Good job Marfa.

Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6069 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:29 pm to
So far a lot like the Miles' era, huh ....well , I only hope Ed Orgeron can accumulate the wins in a similar fashion .

Doesn't matter who gets the credit right?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:31 pm to
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He was handed one of the greatest opportunities ever in the history of the sport. Until he has some conference hardware, its tough for me to say hes done a bang up job. Thats just me, I guess.


it's definitely just you, baby.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34061 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:35 pm to
There is a whole lot of stupid in some of these responses. Holding AIR to minus five yards rushing is not a TBD situation. 27 points sucks, never mind that we missed a field goal and chose to go for it on 4th and goal when we could have easily hit a chip shot.in short, 30 points is the probable floor if we are being honest. BYU has s legit defense. Did some of you that are commenting actually watch the BYU/PSU game? Trying to shite on a 27-0 win is moronic. We dominated the Heisman winner. And stating that 50 coaches could have gone 6-2/7-1 down the stretch last year may make you the dumbest fricker I have come across on this site, and that's saying something. Some of you "fans" are pathetic. Let me guess, bring back Les! Amirite?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6069 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:53 pm to
Lotta hypocrisy in this fanbase...
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Because he may be a worse hire than Tom Herman at UT. Aranda has never even been a head coach.


In recent memory, Oklahoma, Georgia, Clemson, Texas, and Florida State have all hired people that had not been head coaches. Those are just off the top of my head. The idea that a top program won't hire a guy with no HC experience is false.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4697 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:20 pm to
EdO would request Primo's bread pudding with his world famous rum sauce. A staple at any Latelco dinner back in the day when Ed Sr was there.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:38 pm to
1. Recruiting was b+. Understandable, but not A
2. Offense was solid but unspecial.
Tbd. And it better be better.
Less guice.
Save some for bama.
3. O interview today was good.
I like that he is not giving media control of suspensions.


Nice start.
All possibilities arise simultaneously in space-time.


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34061 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:54 pm to
I'll play

On recruiting:
"O followed Miles, Herman followed Strong? O was already on staff.... My gosh, lets dont twist and justify things to fit our BIAS, huh?

My take: Herman was in Houston, not Idaho. He had massive amounts of support and positive publicity. Yet, he didn't seal the deal.
Coach O was roasted by the tards in the area, including on this site). Negative recruiting does occur and this day of social media (including TD), some our "fans" realistically should have been called saboteurs. Did it cost us recruits, who knows for sure, but it certainly didn't help.

On our offense vs. BYU
"When you have no offensive production and a team like LSU scores 27 points against a tired undermanned defense, doesnt make the LSu offense an A,B,C,D or F. At this point, its a TBD."

My take:
The offense was improved over the archaic style we suffered through under Les. I say that because we basically ran the same offense after he and Cam were gone, we were just more effective in terms of play calling imo. Jet sweeps kept the BYU linebackers at bay as they couldn't run blitz non-stop. This allowed us to dictate the point of attack and run downhill. The fact that they held us concerning big plays tells you how good their front seven actually is (top 10 nationally last year and returning most of the key players!).

On Coach O:
The OP's point is that so far, Coach O has done a good job. " No he hasnt done a good job. An OK job is a fair assessment.

My take:
He took over under difficult circumstances last season and performed well imo. The loss to Florida was a game in which we dominated. One big play and some costly turnovers doomed us. EVERYTHING that could go right for Florida went their way. shite happens. As for Alabama, we were in a 3-0 game. Would you have risked losing the game trying to make something happen? Or do you try to grind and find a way or even get lucky? He chose the latter. It didn't work. Then again, the gumps are chumps right?

The future:
When he wont be able to just ride the coattail of another's work. Anyone can take over a well ran dept for a yr or 2 and have success.

My take:
Saying Les is responsible for the success under Coach O to this point is laughable. A well ran department? You do realize how big of a shite show the last few years have been right? Our offense was a dump truck in a race against a sports car under Les Miles. Under O last year, that dump truck got a makeover, but it was still a dump truck...just a fast one. Now we actually have an OC that looks like he knows what the hell he is doing. I agree the jury is still out, but if you can't see the MILES (no pun intended) of improvement, then you may as well mail in any optimism for our Tigers. I wanted Les gone awhile back, but I totally respected the positive aspects of his tenure. Coach O has been shite on since day one by some of our "fans". You do your thing and I'll do mine. Me, I like our chances. Let's see how this plays out.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Delmore1951
Homer La
Member since Aug 2017
908 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:01 pm to
Idiot
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:21 pm to
Amen
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18143 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 1:29 am to
Because he has been a D.C. at a Power 5 school for only 5 years. He would have to get a pretty good gig to make more than LSU is willing to pay him. Lsu would pony up 2.5 million per year to keep him.Outside the SEC that's a lot of money for even some Power 5 schools. Then how much support would he get for coaches salaries and facilities. He has whatever he wants here. That's hard to walk away from for most people. I think Aransas stays another 3 years at least.
Posted by Guidge
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
556 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 1:46 am to
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Aranda is gone after this year


I bet he isn't. Aranda will be here at least another season after this. I think Pruitt is gone after this year, however.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9113 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:38 am to
Lmfao... Without Aranda? Lmfao

My lord you people are dumb.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:22 am to
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Because he has been a D.C. at a Power 5 school for only 5 years.


Lincoln Riley was an OC at a power 5 school for 2 years before becoming HC of Oklahoma. Dabo was OC for 1 year before being hired as Clemsons HC. The days of top programs requiring previous HC experience are gone. Clemson and Oklahoma are both better jobs than Texas A&M. Texas A&M was paying Sumlin $5M. To think that they won't or can't go after Aranda is incredible ignorant.
Posted by LosTigres25
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2017
365 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:58 am to
So much fail in your post leg. Learn some football before you post in here again. And get out from under Coach O's desk and get some fresh air.
You have the audacity to post this ignorant piece and hit send.

Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9113 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:09 am to
quote:

agree that the The offense has been better. But who cares how the offense looks. Just win the damn game.


You know who cares how our offense looks? These offensive recruits we would need to be successful in years 2 and 3. It's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. You're talking out of your arse or you are an arse or both.

The team looked to be in the best shape I've seen in a very long time, top to bottom. The freshman on both sides were well prepared. It's obvious that Orgeron spent lots of time focusing on these guys in the offseason. It's funny that Coach Os first class is more mature then we've seen from a Les Miles class, maybe O is much better at evaluating character with Athletic ability, which is key IMO.

O was the recruiting coordinator so this wasn't all Les Miles recruits, and he kept the class together. When O took over LSU doubled its point total and the yards per game went up by 100 yards. Penalties were reduced, redzone efficiency went up, clock management had gotten better, and the teams moral went from 50 to 95.

The way he turned that team around immediately is what had me sold on him as HC of LSU. Not many people, if any could have done that. I wanted to see how the team would respond with an entire offseason under his tutelage. As I suspected they were in tip top shape, faster, stronger, more technically sound, and more focused then I've ever seen a Les Miles team in the first game, even in 2011, we started very slow until Honey Badger got the team going. This is all while playing more freshman then I've ever seen in a game opener. Players were suspended, no big deal, no let down, as you might expect from suspensions.

Time to get behind LSU and its HC whether you liked him being hired or not. He's got our Tigers playing some great football and with that, will likely close out this years recruiting class strong, to bolster this LSU roster even more so with high character athletes.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

You do realize how big of a shite show the last few years have been right?



if the mcneese game had been played we would have won 10 games every year but once since 2010.

in no fricking way is that a shite show.


quote:

ur offense was a dump truck in a race against a sports car under Les Miles.


like in 2015 when we finished above ohio state, bama, and fsu in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game?

quote:

He took over under difficult circumstances last season and performed well imo.


so you shite all over miles when he had a win % over 76 over 11 years but a win % of 75 is performing well?



its become pretty clear youre ok with results worse than Miles tenure as long as miles isn't the coach.

quote:

Time to get behind LSU and its HC whether you liked him being hired or not. He's got our Tigers playing some great football and with that, will likely close out this years recruiting class strong, to bolster this LSU roster even more so with high character athletes


agreed
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 9:39 am
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28502 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Cincinnati is the highest paying non power 5 job at 2.2 million per year.


Im on record thinking that Aranda will go be an NFL DC for the next 20 years. BUT i could see a fairly big P5 school trying to poach him. I mean, he is just a qualified as muschamp was when he went to Florida, and DA is a much better coach.

He'll get a big time job if he wants it.
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