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CBS' Jerry Palm, "Without that Kentucky win, LSU is barely an NIT team"

Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:57 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40407 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:57 pm
I was looking at the CBS bracketology and LSU is listed as a 12 seed "auto-qualifier" because they currently lead the SEC. He claims that they don't have an at-large bid at the moment and without the win against Kentucky, they are "barely an NIT team."

Now maybe he has a case, but he clearly is going strictly off numbers rather than any "eye-test" or factoring in Hornsby/Victor missing the beginning of the year.

I'll never forgive this guy for claiming that his final BCS calculations had OKST in ahead of Bama though.

in the video "NIT" quote
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 10:58 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:00 pm to
LSU won that game so why does it matter?

If I didn't have 20 bucks in my pocket right now then I'd have zero.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64587 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:02 pm to
Palm has LSU in the tourney though.
Posted by CaliTigerForLife
California
Member since Nov 2015
1215 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:06 pm to
And your point is to be negative and try to show there's still one clown's negative opinion that you support against all the positive opinions of them now?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34652 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

Palm has LSU in the tourney though.
only because he has to. He stated we wouldn't be in if we didn't have the auto bid.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28364 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

one clown's negative opinion

Palm is one of the better college basketball analyst in Bracketology
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:14 pm to
I think Palm is an idiot. LSU is receiving votes for being in a top 25 poll. Not even NIT? Give me a break
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28364 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:19 pm to
Well LSU still has 8 games remaining plus the SEC Tournament so I wouldn't put much into where someone has LSU seeded. This will matter more at the end of the month
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

And your point is to be negative and try to show there's still one clown's negative opinion that you support against all the positive opinions of them now?
It's a noteworthy statement. One more bad loss or even mediocre loss could have been critical to the team's chances. But they did the hard work and now have some breathing room going into the home stretch.

LSU has plenty of opportunities to fill out its resume in the last 8 games, but I would take an "auto bid" any day of the week.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40407 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:41 pm to
Where did you get that I was trying to be negative? I've said all year this team was making the tournament and I was surprised it still is on the outside looking in according to some. The strength of his comment struck me as odd regarding the team barely being barely NIT worthy because it sounds absurd and thought it would be noteworthy to share. I thought it was discussion worthy.

My point in posting this is that there may be some experts and possibly committee members who won't be so forgiving of the awful non-conference performance. Based strictly on numbers, top 50 RPI wins/non top 50 RPI losses, etc, this team probably is on the outside. Fortunately, most people see beyond strictly the numbers and will take into account the absences and the "eye test."

I've made the case that LSU will get in if they are anywhere close to the bubble because of Simmons' star power and the UCLA/Texas inclusions last year.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:45 pm to
Borderline NIT team?

What a retarded opinion.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10129 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:49 pm to
I think the " _______ hates LSU " is overplayed, but damn this guy apparently has an issue with us.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:20 am to
Bold words from Mr. Palm.
Posted by lwlsu96
Member since Oct 2011
5404 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:43 am to
He sounds salty
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:02 am to
He can say what he likes, so long as we get in the tourney I don't much care
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11657 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:16 am to
Tell Jerry Palm I got him as the No.1 overall seed in the Come catch this fade invitational. I'm only sending out invite too, Jerry. You the guest of honor frickboy.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36813 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:32 am to
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"Without that Kentucky win, LSU is barely an NIT team"
So much wrong with this statement.

I can do it relative to yesterday with ease: "Without that Super Bowl win yesterday, Peyton Manning is 1-3 in Super Bowls."

"Without a great defense, Denver Broncos are barely a playoff team".

The narrative is to take away a win and then make a statement from that pretense. If I take away the murder weapon, then the entire case is circumstantial.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:38 am to
Y'all are taking this all wrong. He is saying we deserve to be in the NCAA tournament!!! woohoo!! Well that is what it means.

Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:41 am to
quote:

"Without that Kentucky win, LSU is barely an NIT team"


This guy must have stopped watching after the Charleston loss.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:31 am to
As I said yesterday in another thread, Palm always seems to have us slightly lower than Lunardi/the actual committee.

Last year was like this, he was very reluctant to have us in as anything more than a last four in. His final submission had us heading to Dayton as an 11 seed, where of course the committee had us safely in as a 9 seed.

Not gonna worry about this too much. The truth is our resume is pretty thin, we must admit. He doesn't like it as much as Lunardi and seems less willing to consider factors outside of the RPI, that's fine. For better or worse Palm seems to stay pretty faithful to that number.

It doesn't matter, we'll be in.

This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 6:32 am
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