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re: CBS' Jerry Palm, "Without that Kentucky win, LSU is barely an NIT team"
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:51 am to TheWalrus
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:51 am to TheWalrus
Last week Palm had Lsu just missing the tournament, so him saying that lsu is barely an nit team doesn't really make sense. Sounds like he was just exagerating in his interview.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:51 am to TheWalrus
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"auto-qualifier" because they currently lead the SEC.
Well technically the automatic bid goes to the tournament champ, not the regular season champ.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:54 am to TheWalrus
Jerry Palm = bfniii
Just a thought
Just a thought
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:25 am to LMfan
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The truth is our resume is pretty thin, we must admit.
It really is, taking one of the next two...or even both, would go a long way in helping there.
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He doesn't like it as much as Lunardi and seems less willing to consider factors outside of the RPI, that's fine. For better or worse Palm seems to stay pretty faithful to that number.
They both have very good track records in picking the final tournament teams. But yes, obviously Palm seems to value the RPI more than Lunardi.
But I think the committee is slowly, very slowly...evolving away from the RPI as much as it used to. And I know this has been much debated here but I think when you see the picks that are eventually made of late years you see more and more teams that have higher RPI ratings than you would have seen in past years....at least that's been my observation.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:32 am to TheWalrus
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Without that Kentucky win
but they did win? SMH jerry palm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:54 am to TheWalrus
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I'll never forgive this guy for claiming that his final BCS calculations had OKST in ahead of Bama though.
OKST should have played LSU..
LSU already defeated Alabama that year...
they sit at home while LSU has to beat UGA in the SEC, then Bama goes straight to the title game.
It's makes no freaking sense to me...
but you can't forgive the guy for his calculations demonstrating common sense?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:57 am to TheWalrus
RPI is probably 90 right now without that win, so he's not wrong. None of this crap matters anyway. We just need to keep winning.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:00 am to TheWalrus
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My point in posting this is that there may be some experts and possibly committee members who won't be so forgiving of the awful non-conference performance. Based strictly on numbers, top 50 RPI wins/non top 50 RPI losses, etc, this team probably is on the outside. Fortunately, most people see beyond strictly the numbers and will take into account the absences and the "eye test."
You are forgetting that they will HAVE to consider that Hornsby and Victor were out for those games. Both are considered "top players". That will be their excuse for putting us in if we seem like we don't deserve it.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:11 am to TheWalrus
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there may be some experts and possibly committee members who won't be so forgiving of the awful non-conference performance. Based strictly on numbers, top 50 RPI wins/non top 50 RPI losses, etc, this team probably is on the outside.
I think reasonable people see this. But, there are a lot of unreasonable tards up in here that think, if you see this, you are a racist CJJ hater.
LSU has the game opportunities ahead of them to easily clinch a spot, and they should be expected to do so... but, if they go 4-3 before going to UK things get dicey, imo.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:14 am to Pelican fan99
quote:We shouldn't be, the blowout loss to Aggie was damning. We have a lot of games left, and if we play like we can, we will be in regardless.
He stated we wouldn't be in if we didn't have the auto bid.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:23 am to tzimme4
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Palm is one of the better college basketball analyst in Bracketology
He is, but he apparently thinks the SEC is still garbage. He had us squarely on the bubble last year too and we were not.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:27 am to ellessuuuu
Just released his first bubble watch of the year, and to nobody's surprise we are listed last among the "work to do" group.
LINK
He's sounding like a h8r right now.
LINK
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LSU is a team everyone is watching because they have a potential No. 1 NBA draft pick in Ben Simmons. The problem is, they aren't doing much with him. LSU has a home win over Kentucky, and without it, we'd be talking about a team on the NIT bubble, not the NCAA one. Despite all that, the Tigers lead the SEC by a game, which says more about the SEC than LSU.
He's sounding like a h8r right now.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 8:28 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:29 am to ellessuuuu
What a lot of people seem to leave out is we really dont have a god awful loss. I think we only have 1 one loss to a team outside the top 100 rpi and that's Houston. (ESPN rpi)
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:38 am to TheWalrus
Lets face it... we are benefitting from a few teams being ineligible for the tourney and cbb seems down this year.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:41 am to LMfan
I think Lsu is an interesting case and has a lot of work to do. If you read eammon Brennan's bubble watch on ESPN, he lays out how they are one of the most interesting bubble teams in years. There are a lot of factors that the committee has to take into account (terrible non conference performance, how much to weigh victor and Hornsby impact, strength of sec, etc.). They are playing a lot better but are nowhere near out of the woods. If they keep playing well, could also end up in the 6 to 7 seed range. Weird season.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:28 am to TommyDaTiger
quote:so, YET ANOTHER expert saying something close to what i have been saying. hmmm
Jerry Palm = bfniii
looking through the sites yesterday, most are split having lsu in the tourney or on the bubble. so, the tigers have moved into a better position for sure.
i spoke with ricky blanton yesterday. when i told him 5 of the last 8 are against the top half of the conference, he said that if the tigers make it, they will have EARNED it. great point. the tigers can make a huge statement the rest of the way.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:32 am to clamdip
quote:i'm still getting this from tommy/camp, etc. someone in another thread fake quoted me as saying that i think lsu will lose the remaining 8 games.
if you see this, you are a racist CJJ hater.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:35 am to bfniii
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i spoke with ricky blanton yesterday. when i told him 5 of the last 8 are against the top half of the conference, he said that if the tigers make it, they will have EARNED it. great point. the tigers can make a huge statement the rest of the way.
Which is why these "if the season ended today" type of projections aren't worth worrying about too much.
There's no Palm, et all can keep them out if they finish 5-3 or better.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:40 am to emmanuellewis
quote:this is what i think and why i have been following it closely. the tigers have a strange resume/politics. i do not doubt if they get close, simmons and the missing starters will make a big difference. the question i have is how "close" will they need to be for those things to give lsu a push. where things get really weird is that the tigers could win the conference and make all of that moot.
he lays out how they are one of the most interesting bubble teams in years
the rest of the schedule is really going to tell the tale. can lsu get a top 50 road win? can lsu shore up the overall road record? can lsu get another top 50 home win? can lsu avoid a bad loss? very interesting.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:41 am to LMfan
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these "if the season ended today" type of projections aren't worth worrying about
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