re: Anyone else just happy to be done with the Harris or Jennings QB talk?

The Caleb Lewis vs Myles Brennan conflict will trump all....

JJ was def mediocre, but the post was about JL or Mett inserted on 1-9-12, not JJ's aptitude at QB.
I stand by my contention he was best option and expect a worse outcome from inserting immobile QB.

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maybe JJ was the best option on 1-9-12, but IT WASN'T WORKING. So try something different - anything - to try to light a spark. It's the damn National Championship game, last game of the season. You have to try ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to make something positive happen and try to flip momentum. Because the course we were on with JJ at QB WAS NOT WORKING. But yet the coaches just flew that plane straight into the ground.

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Hindsight is 20/20. It was 15-0 when the decision was now or never for a change at QB.
A play here or there and LSU is back in the game. LSU had made that big play all year. Alabama has proven over and over again you arent beating them with a pocket passer. But JJ and the offense was totally inept as well.

Hard to put it like the coaches flew the plane into the ground.

A debate that will never be settled in here. Just like who shouldve started after JJ came back from injury.
The players and coaches wanted JJ, but the back up QB certainly played well enough to garner some fans.

Neither was a bust at LSU.

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quote: Harris couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. He was plenty accurate in HS and his freshman year. His head got screwed up somewhere along the way.

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And?

Happens all the time. I do find it hard to believe he had any touch on the ball ever. Its a totally different game in the SEC. Look around the SEC in the last 4-5 years, who came in here a tore it up against these defenses?

The kid was given every opportunity to lead this team, at Etling's expense, who was consistently out playing him at practice.
He just didnt have it, but very few do. I wish him well at UNC, he shouldve transferred.

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The game wasn't out of reach until late and maybe you need to rewatch the OL performance, as putting in immobile QBs would've sunk any chance to get back into it.

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uh, we didn't cross midfield the entire game. Perhaps the most abysmal offensive performance in our history, on the biggest stage, with the most at stake.

And you're still advocating that we shouldn't have tried anything different. Just go down with the ship. Which Les did.

Offensive stats:
5 first downs
44 plays, 92 yards
Rushing: 27 carries for 39 yards
Passing: 11–17–1, 53 yards

Surely you realize that even bringing in a new QB can give a team an emotional lift. And maybe, just maybe, that translates into something productive, which could've changed the momentum.

But we DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!!!

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quote: Surely you realize that even bringing in a new QB can give a team an emotional lift. And maybe, just maybe, that translates into something productive, which could've changed the momentum. I'm with ya.


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Surely, you realize that bringing in a QB that the team has very little confidence in can end what emotions are left. And maybe, just maybe, that ends the last chance you have at winning the National Title if the defense lets up just a smidgen. Changing QB's or not changing QB's can be argued until we are all blue in the face. I wouldnt have and had no issue with the coaching decision during the game. Now 6 years later, yeah maybe we shouldve done alot of things differently.


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[quote]Hell, the best option was probably putting Russell Shepard in and run the read option over and over again. But we were way too unimaginative for something like that.

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This team was unbeaten. The best option was bringing in a guy who hadnt played a down at QB all yr against Alabama?
When we were in the game until late in the 4th quarter?

This may be the most asinine thing anyone has said about that day. I bet that wouldve really sat well with the Lee contingent. Maybe, just maybe, hijacking the gump bus, wouldve been a good thing to try.

Now it's Etling/narcisse/Scott - until you have a clear cut QB who distances himself, you'll always have these discussions

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This team was unbeaten. The best option was bringing in a guy who hadnt played a down at QB all yr against Alabama?
When we were in the game until late in the 4th quarter.
This may be the most asinine thing anyone has said about that day. I bet that wouldve really sat well with the Lee contingent. Maybe, just maybe, hijacking the gump bus, wouldve been a good thing to try.

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Very similar to 2016, everyone knew LSU was not going to score any points with that offensive gameplan. It was pretty dang obvious after the first half, i dont care what the score was.

My Shepard comment was slightly in jest, but the idea behind trying something different holds merit. Let's look at the facts...

A) JJ was horrendous the first half of the game, and we had gained something like 30 yards of offense. Bama had it completely figured out.

B) I was a huge proponent for bringing in JLee at the time, but lets be honest, he was scared to death of them. One INT could've taken us out of the game completely.

C) the only reason we won the 9-6 game was JJ running the read option. He never really ran it well though.

I understand that the coaches were limited in what they could do, because they really didnt have a 'good' option. Mett hadn't taken a snap and we had no idea what to expect.

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I bet that wouldve really sat well with the Lee contingent

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Who gives a shite? We didnt try to win the game, just like 2016.

Member in 2010 when Lsu lead late against bama but bama was coming on strong. We had a third and long, I think around 3rd and 15. Miles put jj on the bench, brought in jl, and he made a big play and we ran the clock out.

He also completed his first few passes and moved the chains in the 2011 game, until he made a bad pass and was lifted. When they finally reinserted him, they had him throwing over the middle down the field, on the first play.

He made some bad passes, but I've seen brees be horrendous at times too, then bounce back. It happens.

Bs. Blacks always defend black players making it someone else's fault. It is ridiculous. His chance to shine against auburn and he was beyond terrible

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This team was unbeaten. The best option was bringing in a guy who hadnt played a down at QB all yr against Alabama?
When we were in the game until late in the 4th quarter?

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we were "in the game"? We were down two touchdowns (15-0) at the end of the 3rd quarter, and had gained 66 total yards of offense up to that point.

You think continuing what we were doing was going to bring us back from a 15 point deficit in one quarter? Jesus, man, you're another proponent of just giving up because "it probably wouldn't have helped."

This was for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. We were god-awful through 3 quarters. Time to throw the kitchen sink at them!! It doesn't matter if we lose 15-0, 22-0, or 29-0. We were on our way to a horribly embarrassing loss, and instead of using every bullet in our gun, we did nothing.

Still infuriating, after all these years.