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re: Amazingly, American Football is not in Europe... why?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:30 am to madddoggydawg
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:30 am to madddoggydawg
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It seems to me you are extending the meaning of that word.
No. A team's defensive shape is choreographed, because it requires multiple moving parts, as is a team's offensive movement. That you don't know this isn't surprising given your other statements.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:34 am to HuckFinn
Who would have thought this would turn into a football vs soccer vs rugby thread? Shocking.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:37 am to NOSTRODAMUS
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That’s interesting. Pro rugby players call us pussies for wearing pads and helmets.
No they don't. It's pretty much only social side rugby players that say that kind of stuff. If professional football caliber athletes played rugby from a young age, the US would be a Tier 1 country. The hardest transition that football players have to playing rugby is how the game doesn't stop and knowing how to be in the right place at the right time.
When you see former football players playing rugby, you see them running all over the field and burning themselves out, while experienced players always seem to be a step ahead.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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soccer is a commie euro froo froo sport
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:25 pm to Nephropidae
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what? don’t tackle the other team, don’t touch the ball with your hand, stay in bounds, and go kick it in the goal. How is this more complicated?
That's like saying all football is to tackle the other guy and bring the ball to the opposite end of the field.
Surely, you're not that ignorant.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:20 pm to HuckFinn
Here in Abu Dhabi, at Abu Dhabi Sports City they have a league with pee wee football, 10-13 and kids 14-17 that are in High School. I had no idea until I went see a friend's kid play. My friend is an LSU grad and was managing a $30 billion fund. I think that company bought the equipment
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:31 pm to HuckFinn
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:56 pm to SpqrTiger
quote:agreed. Football is incredibly complex.
The argument that soccer is “cerebral” than football is usually put forth by people who feel some sort of inferiority complex regarding the relationship of soccer to football.
And I also agree when folks talk about baseball being more cerebral. Please. That game moves at a snail's pace, and there's not much more for a manager to decide than when to go to the bullpen, lefty/righty decisions, and when to put on the hit and run. Pretty basic stuff. Baseball fans get sensitive when people complain about their sport, so they claim we're all too dumb to understand its nuances. Nah, that's not it.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:56 pm to SpqrTiger
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You support your argument well, but this is false. Soccer may be a more beautiful game in its constant flow of motion, but it is not more tactically complex.
Soccer is tactically repetitive, and your argument that soccer only has a playbook on free kicks works against, not for, your argument. Football playbooks can be as thick as bibles, and when the game is on, every single page is in play, on offense and defense. That leads to hundreds of thousands of possible combinations in any given game. And if you are the coach or the player who cannot or will not adjust to those possibilities, you will look like a fool.
The argument that soccer is “cerebral” than football is usually put forth by people who feel some sort of inferiority complex regarding the relationship of soccer to football. To them, I say let it go. There’s plenty of room to love both sports, without making negative comparisons of one over the other.
Player cohesion is much more important in soccer than it is in football. Brazil has the greatest soccer players in the world and have only won the world cup once this century.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:02 pm to madddoggydawg
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Obviously every sport has spatial elements and a variety of approaches, but the simple fact that football calls a choreographed play that is carefully considered by a team of coaches and analysts for months before the game immediately raises its strategy level above games with few breaks like soccer.
It is easier to understand the complexity of football strategy, I'll give you that.
You've done a great job of demonstrating how easy it is to misunderstand what's happening in a soccer match.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:15 pm to Brazos
Rugby is tougher than the modern day NFL. A good rule of thumb is if you get cauliflower ear from a sport, it’s tougher than the NFL
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:17 pm to Nephropidae
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, stay in bounds
Actually you don’t have to stay in bounds. The ball does though.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:22 pm to atltiger6487
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and there's not much more for a manager to decide than when to go to the bullpen, lefty/righty decisions, and when to put on the hit and run. Pretty basic stuff.
Jesus.
And I hate baseball.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:42 pm to southdowns84
quote:come on, man. There’s not much going on with baseball. And nearly every decision by the manager is by the book.
Jesus.
And I hate baseball.
It ain’t cerebral at all.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:43 pm to DByrd2
I don’t mind watching soccer but I can’t understand “offsides” and I hate the flopping and adding minutes to the game clock. If a player is hurt, the game clock should stop per the official. It seems like there is guessing on how much time to add on a running clock.
Not enough scoring. 2-1 games after 90 minutes seems boring. If your team gets behind 3-0 during the first half the match is pretty much over.
Not enough scoring. 2-1 games after 90 minutes seems boring. If your team gets behind 3-0 during the first half the match is pretty much over.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:49 pm to Klingler7
quote:with a few rule changes, soccer would be watchable.
I don’t mind watching soccer but I can’t understand “offsides”
The offsides rule is absurd, and suffocates all offense. It makes most games decided by random bounces of the ball.
I’m not advocating for scores of 15-13, but average scores should be 6-5 or so.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 5:03 pm to Brazos
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I always get a good laugh when people say professional rugby is rougher than the NFL.
The current state of the NFL is soft AF compared to the old NFL. It’s certainly softer than rugby right now.
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