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re: Advocate Article Re: No Special Teams Coordinator & Kickers

Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68690 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Special teams would be in better hands with no one coaching them rather than Peveto still on staff.


When peveto took over, LSU improved in every single statistic in special teams except kick off coverage. Too me, that was more of a personnel problem since LSU was losing players early at a crazy rate. You had to have true frosh playing a regular position in games and left the not so talented guys playing special teams. Even white averaged more yards per punt return than Beckham Jr did.




Oh and LSU won a national title with peveto on staff.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155703 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:21 pm to
You know how F. King feels about paying for "punting coaches"

And I really want to get behind the "ST groupthink" approach but I'd feel a lot better with a full time ST coach that can double as a recruiter (like a McGaughey...come home Tmac! Or bdp if he could actually coach)

Then again the saving grace is "can't be worse than bdp."
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Advocate Article Re: No Special Teams Coordinator & Kickers
Pffftttt!! Miles didn't have a Special Teams Coach for his last 3 years at LSU.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64751 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Are there offseason camps for kickers similar to the Clarkson or Gruden QB camps? It seems like it would be a good investment since a kicker's mechanics and psychology are such specialized areas.

yes, Kohl's has one. Google their youtube videos. They work with elite high school prospects all the way up to NFL players.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Knowing what I know and have seen....I think he is referring to Spring Practice.

Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7587 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:01 pm to
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He can be at practice and meetings, for instance, but he can’t speak to players during either.


So I read it like this...

McMahon (who is allowed to be on the field per quote above) is standing next to Culp and yells: "hey coach xxx tell Connor to swivel his hips more"
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:05 pm to
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Are there offseason camps for kickers similar to the Clarkson or Gruden QB camps


The car accident that Colby Delahoussaye lost his friends in happened when leaving a kicking camp.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59151 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:57 pm to
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It doesn't take a coach watching you kick everyday to help with that. You could watch a fricken youtube video and practice that. I mean you're just kicking a ball. You either know how to do it or you don't. If you can't figure out on your own why you're shanking everything to the right, then you're probably not cut out to be a kicker.




Are you retarded? Even Tiger Woods had a swing coach in the middle of his goatness.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
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prolong the agony with Miles.


Les won more games in his last five years than Saban won in his time here. Agony is way over the top, but par for the course with some of our clowns.

It was time for Les to move on, but some of the shite the clowns here throw at the man is a sad example of their sports IQ and the reason LSU fans are laughed at in the SEC.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:17 pm to
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doesn't take a coach watching you kick everyday to help with that. You could watch a fricken youtube video and practice that. I mean you're just kicking a ball. You either know how to do it or you don't. If you can't figure out on your own why you're shanking everything to the right, then you're probably not cut out to be a kicker.



Oh Jesus Christ...
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:54 pm to
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It was time for Les to move on, but some of the shite the clowns here throw at the man is a sad example of their sports IQ and the reason LSU fans are laughed at in the SEC.



To be fair their IQ is likely higher than Les's.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18771 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:08 pm to
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When peveto took over, LSU improved in every single statistic in special teams except kick off coverage.


His numbers for kickoffs going out of bounds were especially high.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:34 pm to
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The five assistants overseeing special teams are running backs coach Tommie Robinson (punt team), secondary coach Corey Raymond (punt return), offensive line coach Jeff Grimes (field goal team), outside linebackers coach Dennis Johnson (field goal block and kickoff teams) and receivers coach Mickey Joseph (kickoff return).


That whole scenario looks like a "delay of game, too many men on the field, not enough men on the field, no way we get the FG team on the field for a last second FG with no timeouts remaining" nightmare in the making
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:40 pm to
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It doesn't take a coach watching you kick everyday to help with that. You could watch a fricken youtube video and practice that. I mean you're just kicking a ball. You either know how to do it or you don't. If you can't figure out on your own why you're shanking everything to the right, then you're probably not cut out to be a kicker.


A kicking coach seems to be pretty comparable to a hitting coach in baseball to me. Someone to keep an eye on you and correct bad habits before they form, fix them, etc.
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
3538 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:40 pm to
I'd love to see your golf swing
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10510 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:47 pm to
Wing's dad was a part time kicking coach a few years ago. You can bring in a guy like that for practices to work with kickers. Aim at the upright and adjust.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:30 pm to
Special teams coach handles the one on one coaching of the kickers/punters. Most of the time the kickers and punters are solely kicking the entire practice and working on their technique. They aren't really involved in the practices until it's time for the special team period in a practice. They use film and record their kicks every practice and watch film almost everyday with the special teams coordinator to see what needs to be improved in their mechanics/technique. It's really all they do the entire practice lol. Unless les miles is your head coach, then, you will probably have to do the "big cat drill" because that means so much as a kicker or punter. What a dumbass. I'm so glad he's gone. Before some of you want to bash me for saying that about les, you may want to check the way he ran/over worked our team in practices. He's a maniac. Thats why we would always have alot of injuries in spring and summer practices because the players were so fatigued their bodies didn't have time to heal and made them vulnerable to injury. This is coming from the players and coaches that were on the team/staff with miles saying that. They love the tempo and structure of the practices with coach O over that of miles. Our team always looked like they lacked that explosiveness at time under miles and looked to get worn down quicker than coach O's teams. You have to figure that the way miles kicked their asses in practice had something to do with it.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:40 pm to
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To be fair their IQ is likely higher than Les's


I know you think that was cute, but it just points out the degree to which your delusions have taken over your mind.

Les has an economics degree from one of the most respected schools in the nation, he lead LSU to more over-all wins from 2005-2015 than any other SEC school, and he has earned many millions in his field, but you think he has a low IQ compared to many who post on the rant.

The arrogance of some clowns cracks me up.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:46 pm to
So it's back to special teams in the Dinardo years then. Had some friends that were kickers and a cousin that kicked back then. They had absolutely zero direction and were left pretty much on their own to practice.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:51 pm to
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but you think he has a low IQ compared to many who post on the rant.


Maybe his IQ was high....who knows...but you certainly couldnt validate that statement by some of the crazy shite he did on the sidelines.

Economics, history, LA degrees.....all as useless as a third nut.
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