re: 4 years of mediocrity

7 out of the last 8 years have been mediocre and underachieving! It is so frustrating because of all thr wasted talent playing in the NFL.

Most of us who jumped ship in recent weeks would be just fine with him staying and replacing Peveto and Cameron, if there were any evidence that we would see change beyond window dressing. This is OC number 5. FIVE. Other than Jimbo, who actually managed to have 2 good years under Miles, everyone else has had a promising start, followed by steep decline.

And yes, I do realize that we had some different looks and ran some different formations in each OC's tenure. However, the overriding factor has been Miles. The lack of discipline on offense has been an ongoing problem. Inconsistency in recruiting on the O Line- his position of speciality- has been an issue. An overriding conservatism if we don't have a sure-fire NFL QB has been an issue. Going into a shell since the pick 6s in 2008 and the disaster on 1/9/2012 have been easy enough to see.

If you could guarantee me that Les Miles circa 2006-07 would walk back through the door, I would be on-board. You can't, because that man no longer exists. He's gone, and that's why Les Miles finds himself in the same predicament as Phil Fulmer and Mack Brown, who were both similar head coaches. LSU is just acting sooner, so the slide doesn't get to the point that it did at those two programs.

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I've cited a few (of many) examples of legendary coaches having down years following and preceding many years of success. Please give me an example of a program having success after firing a coach with a 75%+ winning percentage over 10+ years.

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Bobby Bowden was essentially forced out at Florida State after winning 76% of his games there. The coach that replaced him is winning 83% of his games with a National Championship and a playoff appearance.

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Not trolling but adding some validity to what you have posted and I have said exactly what you just said. Coach Bryant was catching major shite and the fans wanted him gone. They said the game had passed him by. He was just like Miles in the fact that he was so stubborn with his 3 yes and a cloud of dust offense, let the defense win the game for you. He finally came to the realization that he HAD to change his offense to stay competitive and what happened……..the wishbone! Many NC followed in the 70's and it was his greatest decade. Today he would have been fired and Alabama would not be what they are today.

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You are right. He would be fired today. This is a different landscape, where football isn't just a sport. It's a multi-million dollar a year business. You can't hang around and wait anymore. That era is gone. It is more likely for Miles to end up like Brown, Fulmer, Bowden, Paterno, etc, than to emulate a legend.

Miles should have taken a lesson from Saban. He saw the writing on the wall, and made a change. EVERYONE, including some Bama fans, criticized him for it. Looks like it's working out pretty well. Saban gets it, as usual. You have to adapt, and in today's college football, you have to do it more quickly, and while you still have the advantage of being a big winner. If you fail to adapt (Brown and Bowden), or do it too late, after you've already starting slipping (Fulmer and Tubberville), you get the ax.

yes we should follow the pedo state example, gtfo miles tard

I agree and share everyone's frustration and things NEED to change. The point I'm making is that even the most stubborn people change (see BamaScoops post). I know he hasn't done so yet but that doesn't mean he can't or won't. He also never really was fighting for his job like he is now.

History has shown that we are better off taking a chance on him changing rather than hoping we're the first program to ever fire a coach that has won over 75% of his games and have success.

Do you think anyone saw the Bear changing his offense in 1969? He was extremely stubborn.

Thank goodness for Bama that they didn't have our present day fans back then. These idiots would have missed out on a decade of dominance because there was NO WAY the Bear could change.

He's changed oc's several times and we're still seeing the same results. So he has "changed" but nothing actually "changed". Is something going to magically be different if we change oc again?

Edit: this info is too good to be buried in this thread. Im making a new one.

I see where you are coming from, but being that les continues to get raises and extensions because of "interest" from other schools does not help his plea against 4 straight mediocre seasons