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4 years of mediocrity
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:49 am
4 years of mediocrity is a great reason to fire the winningest coach in school history.
In fact Bama should have fired that Bear guy when he had 4 terrible seasons in the late 60's and what was Penn State thinking by keeping Joe around after he sucked in the late 80's. Good thing Saban left after 2004 because we would have sent his sorry arse packing after losing at least 3 games in four out of his five seasons. Coaches can NEVER change so you have to get rid of them before its too late.
In fact Bama should have fired that Bear guy when he had 4 terrible seasons in the late 60's and what was Penn State thinking by keeping Joe around after he sucked in the late 80's. Good thing Saban left after 2004 because we would have sent his sorry arse packing after losing at least 3 games in four out of his five seasons. Coaches can NEVER change so you have to get rid of them before its too late.
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Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:52 am to Quagmire
If you can cite come examples of how miles has changed and adapted, I'm with you.
I'll hang up and listen.
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:52 am to Quagmire
quote:
Coaches can NEVER change
Some do, history has shown Les does not.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:53 am to Quagmire
quote:
4 years of mediocrity is a great reason to fire
Agreed
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:54 am to Quagmire
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:55 am to poochie
I've cited a few (of many) examples of legendary coaches having down years following and preceding many years of success. Please give me an example of a program having success after firing a coach with a 75%+ winning percentage over 10+ years.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:55 am to Quagmire
So....Miles > Bear > JoePa?
KEEP MILES...ONE MORE TERM!!!!
KEEP MILES...ONE MORE TERM!!!!
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:57 am to Quagmire
quote:nice of you to leave out that bryant had 2 or fewer losses for 9 consecutive seasons before those hiccups
Bear guy when he had 4 terrible seasons in the late 60's
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:58 am to Quagmire
The first 10-3 team was not mediocrity.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:59 am to MakeMoney
Where did I say that? What I said was the people calling for Miles to be fired would have done the same with those legendary coaches and missed out on many years of success.
The odds for success strongly favor keeping Les rather than rolling the dice with someone else.
The odds for success strongly favor keeping Les rather than rolling the dice with someone else.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 9:59 am to Quagmire
Agreed !!
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:00 am to Quagmire
LSU won 44 games from 2010 through 2013.
We're either talking about Bama or just 2014 and 2015.
Not 4 years - just sayin'.
We're either talking about Bama or just 2014 and 2015.
Not 4 years - just sayin'.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:01 am to Quagmire
quote:
Please give me an example of a program having success after firing a coach with a 75%+ winning percentage over 10+ years.
They can't. We have a spoiled fan base that will be sorry if they get what they ask for.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:02 am to Rouge
And our coach won a NC, 2 SEC championships, and 3 Western Division championships before that. What's your point?
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:03 am to chinhoyang
Ohio State with Cooper/Tressel
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:05 am to chinhoyang
quote:and what if we're not sorry? Will you be sorry that we're not sorry?
They can't. We have a spoiled fan base that will be sorry if they get what they ask for.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:05 am to Ace Midnight
Thank you! It really is only 2 years so if we use that as our baseline, EVERY successful coach would have been fired before completing a legendary career.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:06 am to Quagmire
quote:
I've cited a few (of many) examples of legendary coaches having down years following and preceding many years of success. Please give me an example of a program having success after firing a coach with a 75%+ winning percentage over 10+ years.
Nah, I don't need to. I care about lsu and our program. I am also a fan of Les miles the person. But I'm tired and beat down from his lack of adaptation. What we saw on 1/9/12 is the same thing we saw in early november. No change. No qb development. Nothing. He's content on just ramming it down their throat regardless of if it works.
Like I said, if he would have shown an a-ha moment and made a change for the positive, I'd be all on board for keeping him. But he hasn't made any changes and shows no sign of making changes (see Arkansas and ole miss). Just more of the same.
Sorry but it's time.
This post was edited on 11/27/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:08 am to Quagmire
quote:
In fact Bama should have fired that Bear guy when he had 4 terrible seasons in the late 60's and what was Penn State thinking by keeping Joe around after he sucked in the late 80's.
Well, that pprolly made you feel good and all, and you probably think you came up with something with substance and originality, but you left out ONE HUGE PIECE of the puzzle . . . .
After 11 years at Penn St, Paterno was only 50 years old, and didnt win a championship until he was 55. And after 11 years at Bama, the Bear was 55, and didnt win his next championship until he was 60
Miles is currently 62 years old
Aint nobody waiting around until Miles is 67 FRICKIN YEARS OLD hoping to win another championship. Hell, Miles himself probably wouldnt stay that long, even if his health let him
Posted on 11/27/15 at 10:08 am to Quagmire
Les' record is good. But as the BOS member stated, it's the way the games have been lost. If you get another 9-10 win a season coach in here, you have the chance to get rid of the errors. You have a chance to start fresh at finding a way to beat Bama. Imagine what Les could have done here if he let an offensive coordinator handle the plays? What about if he had disciplined teams that didn't get so many penalties? What about clock management and time out management? How about stability at QB? These are all things that have cost LSU games and generally things that 4.3 million dollar a year coaches don't do. You have crappy programs that have their 300yd passer go down to injury and the back up comes in a slings it for 300 a game as well. Why is it so hard for LSU to find 1 QB? All glaring issues that have never gone away. Les has had time to correct but they still exist.
If another 9-3 or 10-2 coach comes in, I'll be fine with it because we will see different approach to beating Bama. You should see a coach try to attack the weaknesses of the other team and not running right at their strenghts. And going into a game with a "plan B" would be great. Haven't really seen that. We've seen the trick plays we break out against the middle tier teams, but against BAMA, it all goes vanilla as the play calling diversity shuts down.
If another 9-3 or 10-2 coach comes in, I'll be fine with it because we will see different approach to beating Bama. You should see a coach try to attack the weaknesses of the other team and not running right at their strenghts. And going into a game with a "plan B" would be great. Haven't really seen that. We've seen the trick plays we break out against the middle tier teams, but against BAMA, it all goes vanilla as the play calling diversity shuts down.
This post was edited on 11/27/15 at 10:23 am
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