re: 2nd Greatest LSU Football Player Ever

Posted by broadcaster

Maurepas

Member since Sep 2013

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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:10 pm to TigerBait1127

Your comparison stats for PP7 and TM7 isn't even comparable they mostly played 2 different positions! PP7 took away his whole side of the field, no team ever went at him. There was plenty of times teams threw at TM7. Now TM7 was a bad man not taking anything from him, I loved him when he was able to free lance their was nobody with his type of skill set, but comparing stats u can't because no one ever threw at PP7, he wasn't asked to come up in blitz coverage and if I'm not mistaken he didn't return punts or kicks as much as TM7. TM7 was still a bad MOTHER FRICKER!

Posted by jrowla2

Colorado

Member since Jan 2007

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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:15 pm to lsu2006

In the past 10 years, I don't think we have a player who can claim to be in the top 5 best players ever for LSU. Tyrann is the only guy close. He was a difference maker unlike any I've ever seen.

Posted by turnage

Atlanta and New Orleans

Member since Jun 2014

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Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:04 pm to SaintlyTiger88

Gino Giambelluca

Posted by LaFlyer

Member since Oct 2012

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Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:40 pm to AngryBeavers

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AngryBeavers
2nd Greatest LSU Football Player Ever quote: lsupride87 Sorry bro you can't call Cannon the GOAT when he played during segregation. The best players from his era weren't allowed on the field.

Sorry bro but they were and your need to start this when it's been so talked over is not relevant. You judge them in the age they played Cannon was great. With nutrition and weight training of these days he would be great against anyone. If you compare his times run at track competitions to current athletes you will see he was fast, he was big, and strong. They played both ways in those days as well so the game was different in that regard. The need to preface everything with racial aspects is dumb and truth told it gets old watching behavior of players on the field and some retro even if arguably less athletic brings a whole lot more in terms of enjoying a game as a fan.

Posted by LaFlyer

Member since Oct 2012

1043 posts

Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:42 pm to jrowla2

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Posted by Message jrowla2
2nd Greatest LSU Football Player Ever In the past 10 years, I don't think we have a player who can claim to be in the top 5 best players ever for LSU. Tyrann is the only guy close. He was a difference maker unlike any I've ever seen.

I agree

Posted by Bill77379

Spring, TX

Member since Aug 2012

229 posts

Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:19 pm to SaintlyTiger88

Hans down Fred Miller.....Look at his LSU and NFL honors. he may be the best considering a DT or DE can't win the Heisman.

Posted by tigerpawl

Can't get there from here.

Member since Dec 2003

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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:11 pm to Bill77379

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2nd Greatest LSU Football Player Ever

In addition to athletic talent, does off-the-field conduct count? Are thugs and mis-fits eligible.

Posted by KC Tiger

Member since Sep 2006

4621 posts

Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:51 am to lsupride87

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Billy Cannon: 6'1" 210 LBS 10.60 100M dash in 1955
Adrian Peterson: 6'1" 217 lbs 10.33 100m dash

...and Cannon returned kicks, returned punts, punted, kicked and played defense.

He scored touchdowns by: Rushing, passing, receiving, punt return, kick return, interception return.

He also recorded scores by: kicking for an extra point and rushing for 2 point conversion.

Cannon is likely only a handful of players in the 50's and 60's who could play today. He was big and fast and full of attitude.

Posted by TIGRLEE

Northeast Louisiana

Member since Nov 2009

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Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:53 am to tigerpawl

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In addition to athletic talent, does off-the-field conduct count? Are thugs and mis-fits eligible.

It some posters eyes it elevates their status.

This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 8:54 am

Posted by Bmath

Member since Aug 2010

18689 posts

Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:19 am to TigerBait1127

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TM7 was a better defensive player than PP7, and it really isn't close. Peterson was a great cover corner, but he didn't cause and swing games like the honey badger.

PP7 personally saved several games in 2010 with INTs and punt returns. However, it is hard to measure how great he was as he played a far different role than TM7. Teams simply did not throw his way. When they did... They often paid dearly.

Posted by 777Tiger

Member since Mar 2011

73856 posts

Posted on 6/16/14 at 5:55 pm to KC Tiger

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Cannon is likely only a handful of players in the 50's and 60's who could play today. He was big and fast and full of attitude.

he would be a stud today, and this thread has made me do some digging, Gaynell could hang today too, IMO

Posted by 777Tiger

Member since Mar 2011

73856 posts

Posted on 6/16/14 at 5:57 pm to TIGRLEE

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In addition to athletic talent, does off-the-field conduct count? Are thugs and mis-fits eligible.

damn, that sort of talk got me two months of TD sensitivity training

Posted by BillyBobfan24_7

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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:42 pm to lsu2006

Lsu2006 why do you have your count twisted in a knot over Hester. He clearly stated his point that if Hester could be a 1000 yard back in the SEC it could easily be extrapolated that the faster and all around more athletically gifted Cannon would more than likely do damage similarly to what he did back in the 50's and 60's.