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re: Why was Sci Martin only a 3 star?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:26 am to Tigerpaul1969
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:26 am to Tigerpaul1969
I'm going to answer your question like this..
Bama was after him hard as well at the end of his recruitment and he chose to come here.
2 of the top 10 teams in the country wanted him bad.
Eta: i mean, most on this board seem to measure our success by bama so there it is.
Bama was after him hard as well at the end of his recruitment and he chose to come here.
2 of the top 10 teams in the country wanted him bad.
Eta: i mean, most on this board seem to measure our success by bama so there it is.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 11:28 am
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:42 am to Tigerpaul1969
I've been saying this all offseason but the reason Sci wasn't a 4 or 5 star is because he lacked the eye popping athleticism that all of the scouts base all of their ratings and rankings on.
Sci is the most refined and technically sound pass rusher I've seen as of recent coming out of high school. He has a nasty arsenal of moves that Orgeron will build on. Don't be surprised to see him in pass rushing situations and mauling SEC tackles. He's Arden Key with less length but doesn't have the weight problems that Key has.
Sci is the most refined and technically sound pass rusher I've seen as of recent coming out of high school. He has a nasty arsenal of moves that Orgeron will build on. Don't be surprised to see him in pass rushing situations and mauling SEC tackles. He's Arden Key with less length but doesn't have the weight problems that Key has.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:47 pm to LSU-DUDE
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I rather judge off of a kids offer list vs stars,
Couple of things to look at:
- As you wrote, offer list. This is the best indicator.
- If LSU was the only big time school offering, how early in the process was it? If early, and especially if it was a camp offer, guy could still be a great recruit and not have a great offer list.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 6:16 pm to NWLA Tiguh12
quote:I'm going with this right here.
You could also interpret this as with him being such a dominant force off the edge, I doubt teams ran much to his side. IMO that explains the lack in tackles.
Oh, I love the month before the season
Posted on 8/9/16 at 6:39 pm to SHBlake79
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But against th run and diagnosing plays he is a 2 star.
That's bullshite, he's good at diagnosing plays, getting of blocks and making the tackle.
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61 total tackles with 33 of the, being on sacks tells you what you need to know.
Actually most teams they played run plays from shotgun in spread offenses. So that's a big part of his numbers.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:13 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Wasn't just the recruiting services that ranked him low but the coaching staff as well were very late with an offer to him and it was just when other recruits fell through around signing day that he received an LSU offer.
sometime coaching staffs and recruiting services are off on their evaluations. It happens all the time. That's why 3 stars and late offers often times end up in the NFL. Remember Tyronne Mathews.
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What was the knock on him to rate him where they did?
sometime coaching staffs and recruiting services are off on their evaluations. It happens all the time. That's why 3 stars and late offers often times end up in the NFL. Remember Tyronne Mathews.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:17 pm to Joe Mantegna
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Gary Patterson wanted him pretty bad at TCU, that tells me all I need to know
So the fact that les miles and his recruiting staff wanted him don't mean anything?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:19 pm to boxcar willie
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Wasn't just the recruiting services that ranked him low but the coaching staff as well were very late with an offer to him and it was just when other recruits fell through around signing day that he received an LSU offer.
Nah, he earned an offer at camp and was pressed to commit, but chose to wait. The coaches kept recruiting him and won him in the end.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:24 pm to Mr. Hangover
Not really, Orgeron wanted him the entire time and it was only until Aranda was hired where Orgeron got his way thankfully. The kid is going to be a monster in this defense.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:14 pm to Joe Mantegna
Stop talking out of your arse.. He was offered in June 2015, aranda didn't get here til January 1st of this year
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:27 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Stop talking out of your arse.. He was offered in June 2015, aranda didn't get here til January 1st of this year
Thanks for the history lesson. You apparently do not know what a committable offer is.
Everything in that post is true jackass, look it up.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:31 pm to Mr. Hangover
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He was offered in June 2015, aranda didn't get here til January 1st of this year
why did they back off of him and re offer him around signing day after others fell through? You seem to be an insider, was it Aranda that had to take a closer look and be convinced?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:36 pm to boxcar willie
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why did they back off of him and re offer him around signing day after others fell through? You seem to be an insider, was it Aranda that had to take a closer look and be convinced?
Orgeron wanted him the entire time, once again, Aranda being hired with Orgeron's backing got him here.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 9:53 pm to Joe Mantegna
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:16 pm to boxcar willie
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Remember Tyronne Mathews.
Let me get this straight...you want us to remember the player whose name you couldn't remember. Ok, gotcha.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:10 am to Tigerpaul1969
Needs to add more bulk (207 lbs on a 6'4" frame) 4.87 time in the 40. Plus it's a very competitive position. Great up side.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:12 am to DontCare
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Let me get this straight...you want us to remember the player whose name you couldn't remember. Ok, gotcha.
Tyronne Mathews, aka 'the honey badger', the CB who played for LSU a few years ago was also a late addition the team and flew under the radar for much of his recruitment cycle. Turned out to be a really good player at LSU and in the NFL.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:25 am to km
Have you seen recent pictures of him? Dude is easily 240
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:33 am to boxcar willie
I can't tell if you're serious
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:54 am to Maximus
At The Opening regional (or whatever it was called then) the summer before his junior year, these were his numbers:
Sci Martin DL 2016 LA McDonogh 35
6-3.5 207
4.87 40
4.44 shuttle
39 Powerball
29.5 Vertical
86.97 SPARQ Rating
Tall but not heavy and did not run a great 40. Maybe measuring out like this at whatever camps he attended contributed. If he is 240 now, obviously that makes a big difference, particularly if he kept or improved upon that speed.
Sci Martin DL 2016 LA McDonogh 35
6-3.5 207
4.87 40
4.44 shuttle
39 Powerball
29.5 Vertical
86.97 SPARQ Rating
Tall but not heavy and did not run a great 40. Maybe measuring out like this at whatever camps he attended contributed. If he is 240 now, obviously that makes a big difference, particularly if he kept or improved upon that speed.
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