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re: Some Will Wade recruiting possibilities
Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:02 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 4/7/17 at 3:02 pm to brmark70816
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My favorite LSU player over the past 20 years was a 6'7, 210 lb forward, Ronald Dupree. I'll take guys like him all day over 6'8-6'10 stiffs that can't play. Heck wasn't Tyrus Thomas only like 6'7 when he came here? Same with Mickey.
Guys like Alexander, Sims and maybe even Rachal just have to play a bit bigger. I'd much rather great athletes that might be a bit undersized versus a huge guy with no game..
For every Ronald Dupree or Charles Barkley there's dozens and dozens and dozens of guys like Brian Bridgewater and Wayde Sims who ARE NOT post players on this level, because it's not as easy as snapping your fingers and "play a bit bigger" as you put it. Not every 6'6 guy can bang inside and win most battles against guys who are 6'8-6'10. There's a reason most post players ARE NOT that short, but rather more in that 6'8+ range.
The fact is, the only bigs on the team for next season is Reath and ER III. We know ER III can't play. We have tried time and time again to put 6'10 Epps in as a PF and it usually ends with him hanging out around the perimeter like a 2-guard and getting pushed around in the post defensively for an easy bucket for the other team. Just like not every 6'6 guy can win battles down in the post, sometimes 6'10 guys cant either.
Alexander is a wing, Sims is a wing, Epps is a wing. We've got PLENTY of guards and wings yet only 1 guy who can play down in the post for any length of quality time.
We DESPERATELY need to find a big to fill minutes in next season if we want to have any sort decent success. Whoever that is should start or probably play 20+ minutes a game...because we cant have Reath out there for 40 minutes a game and 3 guards and a wing playing all the time.
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:13 pm to thunderbird1100
I just don't know where they would get one, at this point in the process. There just aren't many left. Perhaps one will fall in our laps, but that isn't likely. I'm guessing that Wade runs a similar 3 guards, 2 forward line up that pretty much everybody in college uses. In that type of system, Sims will play forward. I think Alexander will as well. Reath will be the primary big forward and will be backed by Epps and Robinson.
We have had smaller teams that ended up with pretty good seasons. Guys mature and get bigger over time. I still think that Epps is a gem in the rough. He just needs a mean streak. He is a great athlete for someone his size. New coach and philosophy could really turn him around..
We have had smaller teams that ended up with pretty good seasons. Guys mature and get bigger over time. I still think that Epps is a gem in the rough. He just needs a mean streak. He is a great athlete for someone his size. New coach and philosophy could really turn him around..
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:17 pm to thunderbird1100
I can't believe this argument has come from LSU "reaching out" to a transfer guard.
LSU needs talent at every position. Just because LSU is recruiting some guards, does not mean Wade has forgot about recruiting post players.
This entire thread as evolved into the absurd.
LSU needs talent at every position. Just because LSU is recruiting some guards, does not mean Wade has forgot about recruiting post players.
This entire thread as evolved into the absurd.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:34 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I can't believe this argument has come from LSU "reaching out" to a transfer guard.
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LSU needs talent at every position. Just because LSU is recruiting some guards, does not mean Wade has forgot about recruiting post players.
This
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
We do need talent everywhere, I'm just astonished that with the incredible lack of depth in the post, we here more about us pursuing guards than post players. If we have several players transfer then I would understand, but at this point there is a chance we return every guard from a year ago. No need to add a couple more
Not to mention Dennis scored 14 a game but shot 35% from the field and 32% from 3. That's far from elite. Atleast Corey Davis shot over 40% from 3
Not to mention Dennis scored 14 a game but shot 35% from the field and 32% from 3. That's far from elite. Atleast Corey Davis shot over 40% from 3
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:50 pm to bugafor6
That coach sounded pretty scummy. Obviously Wade has better relationship with Kiir and his HS coach than Underwood has but "my relationships at this stage aren't with assistants, they're with head coaches". Talk about self-important.
Also how does Orlando Antigua get a job after just getting fired by USF for academic fraud?
Also how does Orlando Antigua get a job after just getting fired by USF for academic fraud?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:20 pm to saintsfan22
A lot of these coaches are mentors so it's basically like another parent in the situation. Not sure what the exact relationship between Kiir and his head coach is but I'm gonna assume it's pretty significant after hearing that interview
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:29 pm to bugafor6
But the quote I pulled isn't just talking about Kiir. Gives off the vibe that he's above talking to assistants.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 8:49 am to bugafor6
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we here more about us pursuing guards than post players.
I feel confident that all efforts to address our needs will be made. Just because you haven't heard about post players, doesn't mean they aren't being contacted and evaluated.
I would be shocked if LSU doesn't sign at least three players prior to the fall. Likely one guard and two post players. One guard could be a transfer, as that will be a position of need in 2018.
Kiir
Davis
Unkown post player
That would be perfect. The third player needs to be a JUCO or grad transfer that could start immediately. Kiir looks like a player, but I don't think we can count on him as an immediate starter. He looks kind of raw.
If Blakeney returns, that would put your likely starting lineup as:
Blakeney
Davis
Sampson
Reath
Unknown Post Player
Posted on 4/8/17 at 9:19 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Jeremy Combs could be that unknown player to go along with Kiir and Davis
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This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/8/17 at 9:44 am to Bjorn Cyborg
That would be ideal. I actually think Kiir can be an immediate impact player. He's coordinated unlike Epps and ER, plus if you watch some of his highlights he's even capable of putting the ball on the floor in transition. His game looks a lot like Reath's but Kiir is 4 years younger
Posted on 4/8/17 at 10:50 am to cowboy4ever
Looks like Combs would have to sit out as a transfer. He's a player though. Would be a good pick up if we have a spot.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 10:57 am to Bjorn Cyborg
He graduates this summer
Posted on 4/8/17 at 11:04 am to bugafor6
That would be perfect then.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Agree.
Those 3 would be perfect additions to the team.
Those 3 would be perfect additions to the team.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 1:58 pm to thunderbird1100
I know that few if any will agree, but I think the three big guys should be part of the starting five, rebounding is such a major factor in determining victories, when one gets in foul trouble, or you need to sub, then you start bringing in the other guys, starting with Wade Sims
the team makeup as it is now has too many 6' 5" to 6' 7" guards/swingmen and unless one of them is dominate (sic) and can put the team on his back, which none of them can as yet, then having 3 of guards in the starting 5 is well a non-starter to me. giving players playing time just for the sake of saying you did it, should not be a consideration
there were times when Simmons was on the team when Johnny Jones would have 4 guards in the game with Simmons and still have Simmons bringing the ball down the court, it was cringeworhty
Jones really had an opportunity to play 2 other bigs with Simmons and I don't think he ever did. and unless Wade brings in another front court player with the one scholly he has to give, his options will be slim, but he should still try it
the team makeup as it is now has too many 6' 5" to 6' 7" guards/swingmen and unless one of them is dominate (sic) and can put the team on his back, which none of them can as yet, then having 3 of guards in the starting 5 is well a non-starter to me. giving players playing time just for the sake of saying you did it, should not be a consideration
there were times when Simmons was on the team when Johnny Jones would have 4 guards in the game with Simmons and still have Simmons bringing the ball down the court, it was cringeworhty
Jones really had an opportunity to play 2 other bigs with Simmons and I don't think he ever did. and unless Wade brings in another front court player with the one scholly he has to give, his options will be slim, but he should still try it
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:07 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
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there were times when Simmons was on the team when Johnny Jones would have 4 guards in the game with Simmons and still have Simmons bringing the ball down the court, it was cringeworhty
Simmons was the only one of them who'll bring the ball up the court in the NBA, so that was actually smart.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:30 pm to brmark70816
Epps was allowed to play shooting forward in HS, and now he's grown a few inches, jumps a lot higher, gained very little weight, and only wants to SHOOT . And w/good coaching, he could blossom, but he will have to be taught defense.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:38 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
The only time we should have 3 bigs on the court is if we add Kiir we can play Epps at the 3.
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