re: Patrick Miller, Ol, ex commit....is it really over?

See previous post. I wonder why he never signed his LOI?

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I wonder why he never signed his LOI?

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I believe attending classes binds him the same as signing a LOI.

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I though EE guys still signed a letter on signing day even though they are already on campus.

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They can, but they don't have to. Technically no one has to sign a LOI. Jeremy Hill didn't sign one.

I really have no clue. I'll check in later to see what's going on, I'm headed to work. Memphis, if anything interesting happens just email me if you have time.

The key with the LOI is that is that if he didn't sign it then he wouldn't be held to anything from Auburn meaning they couldn't restrict where he goes. He would still have to sit a year under the transfer rules and likely pay his way the 1st year but wouldn't be restricted from going to LSU by Auburn. Just like Blakely from UF to Auburn last year.

It seems to be very close to a done deal of him transferring to LSU as of the news lately.

So basically we pretty much will be loaded in o-line talent and depth for the coming years if this comes true. Nice.

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I'm pretty sure the SEC has a rule that automatically states that a kid that transfers within the division with an unconditional release has to sit pay his own way for 2 years


Thats what I'm asking for, a link to this rule. This is mentioned all the time but I've never seen it in the SEC bylaws.

I don't think Miller is coming here or looking to leave regardless, I'm just curious about the rule.

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I found two different SEC Transfer bylaws that I'll post here:

SEC Bylaw 14.5.5.1 (page 20) Transferring within the Southeastern Conference:

A transfer student from a Southeastern Conference institution shall not be eligible for intercollegiate competition at another Southeastern Conference institution until the student has fulfilled a residence requirement of one full academic year (two full semesters and three full quarters) at the certifying institution. Further, a transfer student-athlete admitted after the 12th class day may not utilize that semester or quarter for the purpose of establishing residency. Student-athletes meeting the terms of NCAA Bylaws 14.5.5.2, 14.5.5.2.1, 14.5.5.2.2, 14.5.5.2.3, 14.5.5.2.4, 14.5.5.2.5, 14.5.5.2.6, 14.5.5.2.7, 14.5.5.2.8 and 14.5.5.2.9 may seek a waiver of the provisions of this bylaw.

SEC Bylaw 15.01.5 (d) (page 22) Eligibility of Student-Athletes for Institutional Financial Aid:

A student-athlete who has received an athletic scholarship award from a member institution of the SEC, but who does not enter that institution or who does enter and leaves before the end of his/her first semester or quarter (except when the recipient of an athletic scholarship award enters military service before enrolling in the awarding institution and remains in service for a period of eighteen months or more), shall not be eligible to receive any institutional financial aid during the student-athlete's first two years in residence at the second institution.
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So, it looks like Miller would be eligible after 2 full semesters at LSU. I wonder if that includes the summer semester; not that it matters as it would make him eligible after football is over. The second bylaw looks like he could leave Auburn after his first semester there and then be eligible for financial aid at the second institution as the bylaw states about leaving prior to the end of the first semester.

That is the jest of what I posted and he said I was wrong about. The LOI not being signed is the part I think he's missing. All Miller signed was a financial aid agreement which is no different than a normal student as I understand it but that could be somewhat wrong as I really don't know the full details. I've never really paid attention to transfers like this one would be because we haven't really had a situation come up. The Porter situation is the same really but I don't know the full or correct details of how his worked. I just know for sure he wasn't allowed to be on scholarship this past season. If anyone knows the full details of how Porter's transfer worked then we'd have a pretty strong baseline to work from aside from the LOI part because Porter signed one.