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re: Patrick Miller, Ol, ex commit....is it really over?
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
actually I think I heard that a certain starting QB was supposed to have graduated by Jan & freed up another spot for an early enrollee, but didn't.
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Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:27 pm to lsufanva
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I'm pretty sure the SEC has a rule that automatically states that a kid that transfers within the division with an unconditional release has to sit pay his own way for 2 years.
lulz
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:29 pm to jayboy504
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Absolutely correct...if the release is unconditional. That's not just the SEC that's all conferences.
Again, can someone provide a link to this rule?
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:37 pm to Diggerest
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actually I think I heard that a certain starting QB was supposed to have graduated by Jan & freed up another spot for an early enrollee, but didn't.
I think Ponamsky debunked that
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:40 pm to MOT
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:52 pm to 225rumpshaker
Well done!
Posted on 3/12/12 at 1:55 pm to 225rumpshaker
But for real this is all that i found regarding the SEC bylaws and transfer to another SEC institution.
quote:So it appears everyone saying two year rule is full of crap IMO.
•Per SEC Bylaw 14.5.5.1, a student-athlete who transfers from one SEC institution to another SEC institution must automatically serve a one-year residency requirement prior to being eligible for competition at the second SEC institution.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 2:32 pm to AlxTgr
quote:College is expensive as hell. OOS tuition for a year at LSU is nearly $18,000. Cost of attendance is over $30,000.
Wow, I'm old.
Even if Miller's parents are relatively well off, they probably can't just write an unplanned $15,000 check and not have it materially affect their short term finances.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 5:12 pm to 225rumpshaker
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So it appears everyone saying two year rule is full of crap IMO.
The 2-year deal pertains to not fulfilling obligations under the National Letter of Intent...not a transfer rule. The interesting part of this though, is that mid-year enrollees don't sign an NLI. So I'm guessing he could transfer under normal transfer rules.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 6:35 pm to Gravitiger
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Even if Miller's parents are relatively well off, they probably can't just write an unplanned $15,000 check and not have it materially affect their short term finances.
Student loans
Posted on 3/12/12 at 6:43 pm to AndyJ
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Student loans
not quite sure it's that easy, if you're considered a "recruited" player you may be considered a counter against the 85 even if you're paying your own way. I've researched this in the past, don't remember the exact details. More than likely they wanted him to sign on signing day and show up in the summer.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 7:48 pm to ForeLSU
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The 2-year deal pertains to not fulfilling obligations under the National Letter of Intent...not a transfer rule
And.....link?
Posted on 3/12/12 at 8:18 pm to MOT
https://www.varsityedge.com/nei/varsity.nsf/main/national+letter+of+intent
here's the actual rule...which is a little vague...
the "and" seems to imply "plus"
LINK
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What happens if I change my mind and I do not want to attend the institution with which I sign and want to attend another National Letter of Intent institution?
If you do not attend the institution with which you signed or if you do not satisfy the terms of the National Letter of Intent Program, the basic penalty is you lose two years of eligibility at the next National Letter of Intent institution and you must sit two years in residence at that school.
Can the Basic Penalty which calls for a loss of two years of eligibility and requires that I sit two years in residence at the next National Letter of Intent Institution be reduced?
Yes. The Basic Penalty under the National Letter of Intent agreement can be reduced by entering into a Release Request Form with the signing institution. By entering into a Release Request Form, the institution and the student-athlete mutually agree to release each other from any commitment and liability to each other as a result of signing a National Letter of Intent. Pursuant to the Release Request Form, you may not represent a second National Letter of Intent institution in any sport during the first year of residence there and you will be charged with a loss of one season of competition in all sports.
here's the actual rule...which is a little vague...
quote:
Basic penalty for not fulfilling the NLI agreement: A student-athlete has to serve one year in residence (full-time, two semesters or three quarters) at the next NLI member institution and lose one season of competition in all sports.
the "and" seems to imply "plus"
LINK
Posted on 3/12/12 at 9:37 pm to Gravitiger
quote:I remember my costs pretty well from the first semester. Tuition was $985, dorm was $500 or so, and meal plan was $550. Glad I started saving for little Alx long ago.
College is expensive as hell. OOS tuition for a year at LSU is nearly $18,000. Cost of attendance is over $30,000.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:36 am to ForeLSU
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Student loans
I wonder if he could get a student loan and greyshirt. Not sure if he would be considered a full time student since he hasn't completed one semester of school yet, but if he is then the greyshirt is out the door.
The greyshirt rule postpones the start of a student’s NCAA division one or two eligibility. It is a great way to increase an athletes transfer opportunities.
A greyshirt is different from a redshirt in one major way. This rule only benefits students who have never attended full time. If a full time student or a second semester student drops down below 12 units they are not considered a greyshirt!
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:58 am to Diggerest
gunner kiel is the reason LSU didn't sign him. i hate to hear he's not happy, but i know he really wanted to come to LSU. that would be a huge, if he decided to transfer.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 4:43 am to Gravitiger
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College is expensive as hell. OOS tuition for a year at LSU is nearly $18,000. Cost of attendance is over $30,000.
Even if Miller's parents are relatively well off, they probably can't just write an unplanned $15,000 check and not have it materially affect their short term finances.
Victoria Lowery got an academic scholarship and in-state tuition at Bama. I'm pretty sure they could make something happen for Patrick Miller at LSU for one semester. I am a full-time student with no job studying overseas in Japan. If I'm a gifted athlete and given the opportunity to play football on scholly for LSU but would cost me one semester out of my pocket, I'll gladly pay. But that's just me.
This post was edited on 3/13/12 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/13/12 at 4:53 am to H-Town Tiger
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. From a FB perspecitive, giving an EE spot to a freaking long snapper was the stupid move, however, I don't get the rush for Miller.
With all things being equal, a 4-star OT > 3-star LS but things aren't equal. We have plenty of talented tackles but no long snapper. I remember how crappy our long snapping was the season before Crappell. I'd rather have a guy come in early and get as many reps as possible including the Spring game before he snaps the ball when the games count. Ferguson also came along with Alexander and IMO, Alexander > Miller and can be a part of the depth chart right away.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:55 am to coldhotwings
nm
This post was edited on 3/13/12 at 8:56 am
Posted on 3/13/12 at 9:25 am to Gravitiger
i am pretty sure it has been stated, that Ferguson is paying his way this spring and didn't take the EE spot
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